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Old January 12th, 2017, 10:31 AM   #31
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That is really sweet!

Congratulations on a cool setup!
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Old January 12th, 2017, 11:25 AM   #32
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Thanks, I'm pleased with how it came out. They did a great job milling it. I have to put it just about straight in, if I tilt it too far it won't go that's how snug it is.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 02:18 AM   #33
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Impressive!!!
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Old January 13th, 2017, 08:45 AM   #34
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Also PaPow, unless you have a reason, I would get the Shield RMS instead of the Jpoint. They are made in the same factory, and the Shield has had a few upgrades from what I understand. I had an Amazon credit that I wanted to use, so I went with the Jpoint. Don't quote me on it, but I think the Shield RMS is aluminum rather than polymer, and has updated electronics, which I think is longer battery life. I think the Shield RMS is a little better looking also. If I didn't have to use the credit, or if Amazon had it I would have gone with the Shield RMS.
Weird to quote myself, but I wanted to set the record straight.

After mounting it on the pistol, I've changed my mind...I really like the Circle dot, which I don't think is available on the Shield RMS (or any other small Reflex). I think I would stick with the Jpoint...and I can't find the Shield RMS for anywhere near what I paid for the Jpoint.
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Old January 13th, 2017, 07:43 PM   #35
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Weird to quote myself, but I wanted to set the record straight.

After mounting it on the pistol, I've changed my mind...I really like the Circle dot, which I don't think is available on the Shield RMS (or any other small Reflex). I think I would stick with the Jpoint...and I can't find the Shield RMS for anywhere near what I paid for the Jpoint.
Holy cow Steve, that is really nice....
Did the sight zero right in with room to spare for vertical adjustments...???
If so, then they did a real good job on the milling. I`ve seen some horrible milling on guns in the past, where you had to shim the sight mount area in order to make it come in on target. Hopefully that won`t be the case with yours. Once again my friend, nice, VERY nice set-up..!
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Holy cow Steve, that is really nice....
Did the sight zero right in with room to spare for vertical adjustments...???
If so, then they did a real good job on the milling. I`ve seen some horrible milling on guns in the past, where you had to shim the sight mount area in order to make it come in on target. Hopefully that won`t be the case with yours. Once again my friend, nice, VERY nice set-up..!
yes it adjusted right in, with no problem, no shims. I'm very pleased. and with how close they get the sight to bore axis, it presents very nicely, The first time I presented, the sight picture was right there, same as the iron sights.
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yes it adjusted right in, with no problem, no shims. I'm very pleased. and with how close they get the sight to bore axis, it presents very nicely, The first time I presented, the sight picture was right there, same as the iron sights.
Well i guess we know who does their milling process correctly.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 06:58 PM   #38
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Sights?

Who needs sights?
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Old January 15th, 2017, 03:47 AM   #39
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OK Steve, we know you live in Florida.

No excuses.

Go to the range and shoot the darn thing and let us know how it goes.

You can't use the weather for an excuse.

We are waiting.
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Old January 15th, 2017, 04:57 AM   #40
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OK Steve, we know you live in Florida.

No excuses.

Go to the range and shoot the darn thing and let us know how it goes.

You can't use the weather for an excuse.

We are waiting.
Went last night. All went pretty well. Mounting screws loosened up a little and of course sighting started moving, this was before I was satisfied with adjusting, so I had to start over. I'll remove the screws, and check for loctite, I could swear I used it, but maybe not (old age) I torqued them pretty good the second time, and they stayed tight. Once I got that done and sighted in, it was nice. The dot is right there almost every presentation, and muscle memory, seems to do the trick when it isn't. I'm not searching with my eyes, I realize the presentation is off and just make it right and the sight is there.

This type of thing takes a little practice for me. I tend to focus on the new element and forget some of the basics from time to time. Working and enjoying the sight, and then the trigger squeeze suffers for a shot here and there, or my grip, etc. Don't get me wrong nice groups, just a few extra flyers than normal. Just need a few more trips. I put 200 rounds down range. I can get defense hits at 25 yards, where before my vision wouldn't let that happen. and at 5-10 yards very nice groups.

After I pull the mounting screws, and (re)apply the loctite, I'll have to sight it in again.
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If you have a problem keeping it tight, it might be just nature of the little beast. Just a recommendation, i wouldn`t use anything stronger than BLUE loctite.
Are the mounting holes bored and tapped clean thru the slide...???
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When I first started seeing the mini-red dots mounted on these small guns, I thought it was a questionable idea at best. I think that was because I'm really more used to seeing them on big USPSA competition guns, so I guess I thought of them as "competition gear." They have migrated to service guns, but still aren't common there yet. After seeing it on this size of gun and how little you had to even adjust the holster, it makes sense though. If you start out with the smaller gun, the RDS is less intrusively large than on a big gun for carry. Not sure I'd go to the expense of adding to the Trijicon HDs already on my Shield, but I'd love to try one.
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If you have a problem keeping it tight, it might be just nature of the little beast. Just a recommendation, i wouldn`t use anything stronger than BLUE loctite.
Are the mounting holes bored and tapped clean thru the slide...???
yeah, I thought about the red for about half a second, and then realized it would be a dumb move.

No it's not drilled straight through. I think the blue should hold it. but I'll keep an eye on it.

I was mounting this one and switching the Trijicon for a Vortex on my Full size (I think I'm going back to the Trijicon) within a short time span of each other. It's possible I put the loctite on one but not the other.
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When I first started seeing the mini-red dots mounted on these small guns, I thought it was a questionable idea at best. I think that was because I'm really more used to seeing them on big USPSA competition guns, so I guess I thought of them as "competition gear." They have migrated to service guns, but still aren't common there yet. After seeing it on this size of gun and how little you had to even adjust the holster, it makes sense though. If you start out with the smaller gun, the RDS is less intrusively large than on a big gun for carry. Not sure I'd go to the expense of adding to the Trijicon HDs already on my Shield, but I'd love to try one.


It's definitely not for everyone, heck there are guys who would think you're nuts, for spending money on new sights when the gun came with sights. So where does that put me.

The thing is we all will spend far more time at the range than we will defending ourselves. And while, I would always want to make sure the gun is reliable and useful for defense, god forbid on the slight chance I ever need it...I don't see anything wrong in making it more versatile...and with my vision issues, this actually improves it for any purpose, IMHO.

It will probably be awhile before they have a reflex sight on a small pistol for rent anywhere though.
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Old April 26th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #45
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Hey Steved13, so now that you've lived with it awhile what do you think?

Pluses...minuses?
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