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This is a discussion on Range report within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by lhawkins +1 Many of my reloads are similar in felt recoil impulse and bullet weight as my SD ammo. I would be ...


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Old January 21st, 2017, 04:47 PM   #16
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+1 Many of my reloads are similar in felt recoil impulse and bullet weight as my SD ammo.

I would be lying though in stating I load like that all the time due to gun games
All of my reloads are loaded to match my carry ammo as closely as possible; bullet weight, recoil, and POA=POI.

All of my range shooting (generally IDPA) is done to keep the skills current that I "own" from "real" training; not to play the "game".
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 06:12 AM   #17
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I understand and agree with everything you said BrianK but I will feel completely comfortable with this gun as my carry piece even after putting only 25 rounds of my carry ammo through it.
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 06:21 AM   #18
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There again, if you feel confident, go for it. I myself, would want a few more rounds just to make sure the gun is loosened up a little bit before i carry it for protection. But thats just my opinion and choice.
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You'll probably do OK with it Chowda. Todays guns are very reliable. Having to use a handgun for protection is a rarity for most people anyway. I have done studies on bullet penetration and expansion to set my mind at ease and to be sure of function, but I understand that not everyone feels that need.

I've been carrying for over 35 years and not once have I even entertained the idea of drawing it to use for SD. I did kill a very sick raccoon with it and dispatched a car struck deer and that's it so far.
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I agree that having to actually use the gun for protection is very rare and still want to ensure it'll run reliably just in case. You may only have one chance to survive a violent attack in the unlikely event it does occur. With that said, I will continue shooting it and will be going to the range again today with more fmj and carry ammo to put downrange.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 04:28 AM   #21
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Put 50 more fmj and 25 carry ammo through it yesterday with zero issues.
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 06:09 AM   #22
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I shoot about 150 rounds of target ammo through a 'modern defensive pistol' before I carry it, if there are no malfunctions in that 150 rounds, I shoot 20 rounds of SD ammo through it, if there are no hiccups I call it good to go and I'll shoot a mag or two of my carry loads once every year or so... My SD loads are very similar in shape and bullet weight to my target ammo so I don't worry about it. Not everyone has the budget to run 200 rounds of carry ammo through a gun and quite frankly I don't really see the benefit, you'd be better off spending that $$ on training IMO.
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I can usually tell within the first couple of mags, based on how the pistol "feels" feeding and cycling as it's firing, if it's going to function reliably or not.

But I'm an old guy who's been at this for a long time.

I'm sure there's some other REALLY old guys (like PaPow) on here who'll agree.
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I can usually tell within the first couple of mags, based on how the pistol "feels" feeding and cycling as it's firing, if it's going to function reliably or not.

But I'm an old guy who's been at this for a long time.

I'm sure there's some other REALLY old guys (like PaPow) on here who'll agree.

Anybody got a beach towel for the bloody nose Rick just gave me...???

Yepppp, i agree Rick, when ya been shootin for as long as us ole`coots,
you get the feel of being gun whisper`er`s like us...hehehehe
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I now have 150 rounds of fmj and 50 rounds of my carry ammo through it with zero issues. I'm calling it good. I appreciate everyones advice.
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Anybody got a beach towel for the bloody nose Rick just gave me...???

Yepppp, i agree Rick, when ya been shootin for as long as us ole`coots,
you get the feel of being gun whisper`er`s like us...hehehehe
Sorry about that, Chief!

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I would, too.

Out of the three M&P9's, two 9c's, two Shield 9's, and a Shield 45 that I've owned; exactly none required any break in at all.

I still have five, and the wife has the first I bought back in '07, for a total of six M&P's still in the house.

One of the M&P9's actually had quite a workout when new. I installed an Apex CAEK and Wilson Combat barrel, then took it straight to a two day Threat Focused pistol course, where it shot 1500 rounds from 12 different mags; functioning flawlessly all weekend.

When I got home, I ordered another W/C barrel for my 9c.

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Sorry about that, Chief!



I would, too.

Out of the three M&P9's, two 9c's, two Shield 9's, and a Shield 45 that I've owned; exactly none required any break in at all.

I still have five, and the wife has the first I bought back in '07, for a total of six M&P's still in the house.

One of the M&P9's actually had quite a workout when new. I installed an Apex CAEK and Wilson Combat barrel, then took it straight to a two day Threat Focused pistol course, where it shot 1500 rounds from 12 different mags; functioning flawlessly all weekend.

When I got home, I ordered another W/C barrel for my 9c.
Rick,
whats your opinion on the W/C barrel for accuracy in the M&P (?????) Do you think its that much better than the OEM smith barrel...?
I still seem to lean towards the APEX gunsmith barrels myself, mainly because i can custom fit them to each gun.
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Sorry about that, Chief!
I dont believe you, no your not... you ole coot
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Rick,
whats your opinion on the W/C barrel for accuracy in the M&P (?????) Do you think its that much better than the OEM smith barrel...?
I still seem to lean towards the APEX gunsmith barrels myself, mainly because I can custom fit them to each gun.

I have no doubt that the hand fit barrels will be best able to wring every bit of potential accuracy out of the pistol, as they would with any quality barrel, in any quality pistol.

That said; the drop in Wilson barrels have shot very well for me.

I'm not a bullseye shooter per se, but I can shoot minute of clay bird at 10-15 yards with them one handed, and bounce beer cans around where ever they land at the same range. That's more than suitable for my needs.

I train to shoot very fast, and put multiple shots COM from varying positions, using either hand, while moving and changing direction frequently.

I guess you could say that I train to survive, not shoot little groups.

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