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Old January 22nd, 2017, 05:33 PM   #1
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New Sheild 9 mm accuracy issues

I have a new 9mm Sheild. Went to range and gun consistently Shooting left. 7 yrd about 2-3 in 10 yrd
5-6 in 15 yrd 8-9 in . No matter how much triger finger
OR hold same result. Shooting off reset.
Came home and tried to move sight a little
Right and it was like driving a nailing concrete.
I don't know if it moved at all. Will see.
Have a green lazer coming I guess I will
Tell on sights.
Anyone else have this issue?
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If my holes were low left, I have found it was typically me driving the gun.

If your absolutely positively sure it is not the shooter (you wrote you shot it from a rest), measure the sights relative to the slide. I have found laying the slide on a flat surface and use the surface as measuring plane might work better.

Check and see if both front and rear are centered or at least off by the same amount.

You drift the rear sight to the direction you want the POI to shift. Front sight is opposite.

Before you drift sights, I would let someone else shoot it to be sure.
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Old January 22nd, 2017, 07:21 PM   #3
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I don't remember if the Shield sights have a locking set screw or not, but the sights on all of the M&P series are notoriously hard to move, the Shield probably the tightest of the bunch.

Here's a copy of the sighting error chart.
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I have a new 9mm Sheild. Went to range and gun consistently Shooting left. 7 yrd about 2-3 in 10 yrd
5-6 in 15 yrd 8-9 in . No matter how much triger finger
OR hold same result. Shooting off reset.
Came home and tried to move sight a little
Right and it was like driving a nailing concrete.
I don't know if it moved at all. Will see.
Have a green lazer coming I guess I will
Tell on sights.
Anyone else have this issue?
Did you try to have someone else shoot the gun to see if it was the same for them...???
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Old January 23rd, 2017, 03:21 AM   #5
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No have not got anyone else there I could trust to see if it was me or gun.
My brother just got his and mounted crimsontrace green lazer on it. He said his at 50 ft (were it is supposed to be dead on lazer is about 12 inch to left of sights!!
My lazer has not arrived yet to check that with.
I am going back to range to try it out again soon
Will get my brother to shoot it this time some.
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I have crimson trace green laser on 7 of my carry guns. Every single one I had to adjust to POA=POI. Having said that I sight it in for 7 yards
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Hi have the shooter correct target
It was showing too much finger but change finger position grip and let gun surprise me still Shooting left
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No have not got anyone else there I could trust to see if it was me or gun.
My brother just got his and mounted crimsontrace green lazer on it. He said his at 50 ft (were it is supposed to be dead on lazer is about 12 inch to left of sights!!
My lazer has not arrived yet to check that with.
I am going back to range to try it out again soon
Will get my brother to shoot it this time some.
First, get someone else to shoot the gun...PERIOD.
You can`t really go by what they say about laser`s being dead-on out of the box, because they are rarely ever even close in most cases. Laser company`s like to use that saying as a selling pitch, so take that thought right out of the equation. Some people get lucky and they go right on the gun frame perfect, but like i said, most don`t. I`ve had lasers bolt right up perfect, the next one on the next gun did not. When you find you can`t get the laser on target, unbolt it, reposition it, you`ll find it will change greatly in most cases. It does NOT, take much to make a laser change a dot on target picture. If you`re expecting it to be perfect on target at 50ft, forget that too. They aren`t that perfect, so do keep that in mind, and you`ll be less frustrated with it. And i`ll add, during the time of the laser being made, shipped, tossed around on the gunshop shelves, then shipped to you, sold to the customer, you never know what they go thru during all this handling, and then you`ll see the results after you mount it on the gun, they are usually not that close to the bullseye. So "supposed to be dead-on" right out of the box, never bet any money on that saying.

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Hi have the shooter correct target
It was showing too much finger but change finger position grip and let gun surprise me still Shooting left
Like i`ve said, get some other people to try the gun...people that are well known that shoot very well. And it helps if you find someone that shoots this exact same model gun.

Another thought, what ammo are you using (???)
I`ve always seen ammo shoot good in some guns, not so well in other guns.
Ammo can make all the difference in the world, so try all kinds of ammo, you`ll see what i mean.
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First, get someone else to shoot the gun...PERIOD.
You can`t really go by what they say about laser`s being dead-on out of the box, because they are rarely ever even close in most cases. Laser company`s like to use that saying as a selling pitch, so take that thought right out of the equation. Some people get lucky and they go right on the gun frame perfect, but like i said, most don`t. I`ve had lasers bolt right up perfect, the next one on the next gun did not. When you find you can`t get the laser on target, unbolt it, reposition it, you`ll find it will change greatly in most cases. It does NOT, take much to make a laser change a dot on target picture. If you`re expecting it to be perfect on target at 50ft, forget that too. They aren`t that perfect, so do keep that in mind, and you`ll be less frustrated with it. And i`ll add, during the time of the laser being made, shipped, tossed around on the gunshop shelves, then shipped to you, sold to the customer, you never know what they go thru during all this handling, and then you`ll see the results after you mount it on the gun, they are usually not that close to the bullseye. So "supposed to be dead-on" right out of the box, never bet any money on that saying.
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Like i`ve said, get some other people to try the gun...people that are well known that shoot very well. And it helps if you find someone that shoots this exact same model gun.

Another thought, what ammo are you using (???)
I`ve always seen ammo shoot good in some guns, not so well in other guns.
Ammo can make all the difference in the world, so try all kinds of ammo, you`ll see what i mean.
Right on with both!
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Well reloads I reloaded are being shot.
Try 5 different loads all Shooting left.
Bought CFE powder and worked up loads 3 different ones
Will try those on next trip.
I know lazers are not always on put grips on 5in pro dead
On out of box but will half to see when I get mine .
But funny brothers is dead left of sights just like mine is shooting
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Well reloads I reloaded are being shot.
Try 5 different loads all Shooting left.
Bought CFE powder and worked up loads 3 different ones
Will try those on next trip.
I know lazers are not always on put grips on 5in pro dead
On out of box but will half to see when I get mine .
But funny brothers is dead left of sights just like mine is shooting
I would try some factory ammo too, not just reloads.
I reload too... my favorite pet load, and hits 1-1/2inch bullseye`s consistently, is the CFE-Pistol powder,
i`ll list my data here, but please use caution.

Range Brass (most all federal)
Berry`s: Plated 124gr Round Nose
Powder: 4.9gr
Primer: WW
Seated: 1.150
Taper Crimp: .379

All rounds checked with a Dillon ammo check gage.
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Did the gun get cleaned before firing it, or did you go straight to the range?

The first time I fired my gun I also seemed to be very inaccurate, but I found out that it was because of my grip and a little due to flinching.
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For what it's worth.............my M&P was doing the same thing. First, I could see that the sights were off by eye. Both. Had them both centered. They come from the factory like that all of the time. Second, once I used the front of my finger on the trigger, my shots came in towards the center of the target right away. Using 115 gr. ammo isn't the most accurate weight. 124 or 147 gr. ammo is a more accurate measure of accuracy IMHO in any small 9mm semi auto. Third, I am one who NEVER shoots reloads.........I don't care if the President hand loaded each one personally, and signed each one.
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