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This is a discussion on Shield M2.0 version within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by Yankee45 There isn't enough width on the Shield for the 2.0 fire control mechanism so I don't expect big changes there. Also ...


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Old March 13th, 2017, 10:26 PM   #31
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There isn't enough width on the Shield for the 2.0 fire control mechanism so I don't expect big changes there. Also there is no need for the 9/40 Shields to have a new updated frame and chassis. The 45 Shield has changes in that area only because of the need to accomodate the larger 45 cartridge. Better site options and stippling would be nice and the PC sear and rounded edge PC striker block ought to be standard on all M&Ps including the Shield. The PC Shield has a beautiful trigger but there are only so many people who want to have a ported short barrel Shield.
Dont let the porting scare you... it isnt near as bad as most people make it out to be. I bet if half the people that shot the ported shield, they`d give up the standard shield in a heartbeat to own a PC shield. The ports are very small, no worries. Gone are the days of those old ported guns that were flame throwers. Not to mention, todays ammo is cleaner and better burning powders, and are far above what we use to shoot years ago. Todays ported guns get a bad rap because of the old days of flame throwers. If powder flash worries people, then why do people still carry alot of concealed revolvers out there today... talk about flame throwers... wow.
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Old March 14th, 2017, 03:22 AM   #32
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The one ported 9 shield a guy let me put a mag through at the range was a nice shooter. It did have a tad less fecoil than unported version (only shot 40/45 shields) but didn't make me want to run out and get ported versions.
Id rather learn to control the recoil as one should not compensate for it in one gun. Which IMO would effect all your shooting. That is unless one has already trained ones self to properly control the recoil of a handgun.




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Old March 14th, 2017, 09:50 AM   #33
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The one ported 9 shield a guy let me put a mag through at the range was a nice shooter. It did have a tad less fecoil than unported version (only shot 40/45 shields) but didn't make me want to run out and get ported versions.
Id rather learn to control the recoil as one should not compensate for it in one gun. Which IMO would effect all your shooting. That is unless one has already trained ones self to properly control the recoil of a handgun.




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Half the people... well, you aren`t considered half the people...lol
But i do appreciate and respect your opinion regardless.

The PC shields ARE a real nice shooter, no doubt about it.
Very nice trigger on them..!

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Half the people... well, you aren`t considered half the people...lol
But i do appreciate and respect your opinion regardless.

The PC shields ARE a real nice shooter, no doubt about it.
Very nice trigger on them..!



Well you know what they say about opinions.

I take most peoples with a grain of salt.

Actually Im glad Im not considered half the people.

As more than half the people I run into lately make me wish I hadn't.



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How much velocity is lost with the ported Shield? The non-ported short 3.1 inch barrel already gives away quite a bit! It's not like the non-ported 9 mm Shield's recoil feels like a hand cannon.
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How much velocity is lost with the ported Shield? The non-ported short 3.1 inch barrel already gives away quite a bit! It's not like the non-ported 9 mm Shield's recoil feels like a hand cannon.
Maybe around 20 FPS less on the PC shield 9mm ported barrel. Different ammo DOES effect it differently though. The most i`ve seen on my chronograph was averaging +/- 20fps.
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Well you know what they say about opinions.

I take most peoples with a grain of salt.

Actually Im glad Im not considered half the people.

As more than half the people I run into lately make me wish I hadn't.



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More like a shovel of salt for you
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More like a shovel of salt for you


Well that depends on the person who's opinion it goes with some require more than others.

As for ported short barrel hand guns I really see no need for it especially on a mild 9mm.

But smith wouldn't build it if folks didn't buy um.




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Well that depends on the person who's opinion it goes with some require more than others.

As for ported short barrel hand guns I really see no need for it especially on a mild 9mm.

But smith wouldn't build it if folks didn't buy um.




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I for one, am a huge fan of the PC shield smith`s... and not just because of the porting, i could care less about the porting. What turned me on to the shield PC`s, was how much better the PC is vs the standard shield. (far better sights, trigger is leaps and bounds far better)

When someone starts building a decent non-ported barrel at a decent price for the 9mm shields, i`ll be all over it and take the ported barrel out. All the ports do is dirty up the insides of the slide, and the ports aren`t really effective enough to warrant keeping it.

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Dont let the porting scare you... it isnt near as bad as most people make it out to be. I bet if half the people that shot the ported shield, they`d give up the standard shield in a heartbeat to own a PC shield. The ports are very small, no worries. Gone are the days of those old ported guns that were flame throwers. Not to mention, todays ammo is cleaner and better burning powders, and are far above what we use to shoot years ago. Todays ported guns get a bad rap because of the old days of flame throwers. If powder flash worries people, then why do people still carry alot of concealed revolvers out there today... talk about flame throwers... wow.

Exactly!

I've now shot my ported PC Shield 9 in several IDPA BUG practices (the porting makes them illegal in IDPA matches). Even when shooting them from the low retention position (1/2 hip) there's no "blast" at all, or even any soot on my white shooting shirt.

Those little ports really come into their own when shooting rapid fire. Slow shots; it'll seem to shoot like a standard Shield. But run that up to 3-4 shots per second, and the PC Shield really comes into it's own! That little pistol just seems to hang there in the same place.

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Exactly!

I've now shot my ported PC Shield 9 in several IDPA BUG practices (the porting makes them illegal in IDPA matches). Even when shooting them from the low retention position (1/2 hip) there's no "blast" at all, or even any soot on my white shooting shirt.

Those little ports really come into their own when shooting rapid fire. Slow shots; it'll seem to shoot like a standard Shield. But run that up to 3-4 shots per second, and the PC Shield really comes into it's own! That little pistol just seems to hang there in the same place.
Right on brother....!
Like i said, these PC shields are getting a bad rap, and it is coming from misinformed people. Only reason i would ever get rid of the ported barrel, is because i`ll shoot 500 rounds in a weekend, that porting surely gets the insides pretty dirty... BUT, guess what... that lil PC9mm never skips a beat. And YES, you`re right, rapid shoot, it stays right on target better than my standard shields by a mile. I`ll never part with the PC`s i have... they`re CHOOTER`S...!!!!!

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I for one, am a huge fan of the PC shield smith`s... and not just because of the porting, i could care less about the porting. What turned me on to the shield PC`s, was how much better the PC is vs the standard shield. (far better sights, trigger is leaps and bounds far better)

When someone starts building a decent non-ported barrel at a decent price for the 9mm shields, i`ll be all over it and take the ported barrel out. All the ports do is dirty up the insides of the slide, and the ports aren`t really effective enough to warrant keeping it.


I only ran one mag through the ported one I got to shoot but IMO the trigger was no different then the ones on my 40 or 45 shield. Felt same to me but I dont claim to be a trigger guru and I have not swapped a single firearm to anything other than the stock trigger. As they all seem to work fine for me.
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Exactly!

I've now shot my ported PC Shield 9 in several IDPA BUG practices (the porting makes them illegal in IDPA matches). Even when shooting them from the low retention position (1/2 hip) there's no "blast" at all, or even any soot on my white shooting shirt.

Those little ports really come into their own when shooting rapid fire. Slow shots; it'll seem to shoot like a standard Shield. But run that up to 3-4 shots per second, and the PC Shield really comes into it's own! That little pistol just seems to hang there in the same place.



3-4 per second huh. Did you hit the target with those or was it just an "oh cool" moment!



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BTW I do think ported handguns have a usefulness and I am not bashing the "porting" or using one for SD.
Simply my impressions of the one Ive shot.
It didn't make that BIG of an impression on me is all.




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I only ran one mag through the ported one I got to shoot but IMO the trigger was no different then the ones on my 40 or 45 shield. Felt same to me but I dont claim to be a trigger guru and I have not swapped a single firearm to anything other than the stock trigger. As they all seem to work fine for me.
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ROTFLMAO.... YEP you`re right, they ALL work, and some work much nicer than others
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