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9mm Shield slide lock - can't release it :(

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Old February 10th, 2017, 05:29 PM   #16
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S&W M&P or whatever I think this video sums it up perfectly.





https://youtu.be/8LmjakoWKwU


Sure does with the one line
"Whatever works best for you and the gun your shooting"
For me and my shield (and all my other SA pistols) sling shot works best.
I dont own an M9 so no worries there.



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Old May 10th, 2017, 08:56 AM   #17
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I see that a lot of you prefer the slingshot. However, I am determined to use the slide stop as a slide release. I have 1000 rounds through it and still can not release the slide with the button.
Could anyone offer detailed advice on how I can make that work?
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Old May 10th, 2017, 09:54 AM   #18
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Can't understand why you would be insistent to use a control to do something it was clearly not designed to do. The designers intentionally designed the shape of the slide lock so it would be difficult to use it that way.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 10:10 AM   #19
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Thanks. I've been here since 2007. I'm not sure why it says that. Maybe because I changed my email address?

I see what you're saying. If the pistol is not designed to do that and modifying it would detract from the pistol then maybe I need to find a different pistol. However, all of the other ones I have fired I was able to use it as a mag release So I am thinking that mine is not working like the others.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 10:17 AM   #20
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But to answer your question, I want to be able to do one hand operation. Secondly, it's what I'm used to on my fs M&Ps.

My main concern is that some do it and some do not. It seems like more will allow you to do it. Makes me think my could you some minor adjustments. If it is not supposed to allow the release then the other guns need to be corrected.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 10:45 AM   #21
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Some guys have found some very small mods they can make to make it much easier to use it as a slide release. They may pop up, or you could search the board for slide release problems and probably find the answer.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 10:49 AM   #22
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I've had mine for almost 3 years, don't know how many rounds through it. When I first bought it it was REALLY HARD, but many, many, many releases with a gloved thumb loosened it up quite a bit, but it is still not easy by any means but it's doable. With me being able to release it with my thumb just adds another tool to the ol toolbox of officer survival skills.

I have not tried it, but I have read of others taking a fine file to the Slide Stop lever (not the slide...) and made it easier. Speed Shooter Specialties has Slide Stop Levers in stock for $8 if you should decide to try that and screw it up.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 05:38 PM   #23
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As the old saying goes, "it's a slide stop; not a slide release."

RTFM.
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As the old saying goes, "it's a slide stop; not a slide release."

RTFM.
Exactly...!
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:25 AM   #25
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It CAN be done but its not its intention.
I CAN get my shields to drop slide IF slam in mag hard enough but I dont do it regularly as its NOT the intention.

Like every thing there are there are those who like to do it differently.


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I see that a lot of you prefer the slingshot. However, I am determined to use the slide stop as a slide release. I have 1000 rounds through it and still can not release the slide with the button.
Could anyone offer detailed advice on how I can make that work?
I'm an old-school fart and to me it's a slide-release, grammar be d@mned.

As pointed out previously, nowhere in the manual does it say *not* to use it as a slide-release. Also, if it's not to be used as a slide-release, why did S&W bother to put serrations on it?

I've read elsewhere that some have used it exclusively as a slide-release w/no problems after many thousands of rds, so what's the worry?

As stiff as it is, I can see why S&W only mentions 'slide-stop' lest someone complain that their slide-release 'is too stiff', 'is defective', etc.

I currently own four 9mm Shields. I used an emery board ('no, honey, I don't know where your emery board is' ) to lightly polish the contact area on the slide-release where it contacts the slide.

Three of the four Shields now have a functional (albeit still stiff) slide-release. The fourth is the newest w/the fewest rds through it (I'll let it wear-in over time rather than risk removing too much material from the slide-release).

Use it as a slide-stop or slide-release, whichever you prefer, IMHO.

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Old May 11th, 2017, 05:32 AM   #27
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I believe it was S&W`s intention, to make them very stiff,
to keep the slide from accidentally releasing when installing the mag home.

My shields have loosened up enough to release the slide now, but i still slingshot them into battery. I`ve never used the slide lever on any of my semi-auto guns to release the slide into battery, i only use the lever to lock them open. I have many 1911`s that will slam home when the mag is bumped in. So the lever is worthless at that point.

Yeah yeahhhh, everybody`s come back is, "but what if i only have one hand to use"
Well if thats the case, buy a revolver...! The stiff slide lever issue has been beat to death.

Has anybody ever found/seen any statistics on stiff slide locks in combat..? Yeah me neither.

I personally think that too many people watch too many hollywood movies.
I find that people just like the sound and sight of it when they use the lever to release the slide... the COOLNESS factor.
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The next time a 'self appointed expert' tells you that its safer to release the slide by ignoring the specific instructions that come with your pistol, turn around and walk out, he doesn't know what he's talking about. What he told you is his opinion, but its not always the correct way to do it.
This topic is often discussed and deserves a logical discussion each time.

So, IF the firearm in question is not manufactured by S&W and they read their other manufacturers' Owner Manual that labels the part differently I guess they should ignore that advice as well.

It is nonsense to consider whether safety is a issue regarding the manner in which the slide is allowed to move into battery; muzzle direction is the primary safety on any firearm, not any lever on the side of the slide. Allowing a new firearm owner to have in their belief system that the manner in which a slide lever is manipulated to perform a task is somehow related to firearm safety is a serious mistake.

Muzzle Safety

Why are traffic "stop" lights not called "go" lights ?; both seem to be a very important function for same device. I guess they designed it to be "stop" light but the "go" light is a defect they can't engineer out of it.

Do these parts "stop" a slide or "release" a slide ? How can you tell by just looking at them ?



Having an ambidextrous slide release could be handy (pun-intended).

When one-handed shooting requires reloading, will activating a slide stop lever allow the slide to move into battery ?

Why is it necessary for the M&P slide stop lever to be ambidextrous ? 1911's usually have single slide stop levers and their slides still "stop".


Often times firearm parts are labeled for their function; apparently all these manufacturers safety engineers don't understand the proper design of a slide lever; some of these firearms even have a "release lever" on both sides ! Yikes, one can only imagine what that owner manual instructs the user to do.






Once you use the lever to "stop" a slide, what does the lever do to the slide to get it "going" again. How does it know ?


How come a magazine follower isn't called a slide stop ?


How come slide release levers are available in different sizes ? Imagine how dangerous an "extended slide release" lever must be !





The Glock nomenclature is schizophrenic, their engineers want it both ways......slide "stop release".



IF the S&W designers shaped the slide "stop" lever based on intentions, then they designed it upside down, as the fullness on top of the engagement areas favors ease of downward movement ! If their intentions were truly to only have the lever only moved upwards then you would think the bulge would be on the lower aspect of the engagement.



Finally, upwards of 70% of law enforcement / military sidearm use encounters that have been closely studied reveal that the operator is using his "handgun" one-handed as designed; that means they better understand how to manage reloading and clearing malfunctions one-handed; none of the accepted methods include the operator grabbing the rear of the slide one handed and sling-shotting the slide into battery.
One-Hand Reloading

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Old May 11th, 2017, 07:18 AM   #29
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To each their own, use the lever any way that suits your wants & needs.
Is there a right or wrong way of operating your gun...? Run it however you want.
This debate will continue long after we`re all gone....lol
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