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Full Size M&P Pro/PC Sear in a Shield 9mm/40 cal.

This is a discussion on Full Size M&P Pro/PC Sear in a Shield 9mm/40 cal. within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by Yankee45 Bill, I've been told that some Pros came with PC sears and some didn't. Does the Pro sear that you used ...


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Old March 9th, 2017, 08:00 AM   #16
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Bill, I've been told that some Pros came with PC sears and some didn't. Does the Pro sear that you used have the same profile as the PC sear with the stepdown profile on the top surface. If yours is a PC sear may I ask when your Pro was made? Here's a look at the PC sear with the stepdown profile on the top surface shown at the bottom of the picture. https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...fv9rKeNJa0M%3A
Yankee, my Pro Series .40 was made in 2012 if I remember correctly. Before I replaced the trigger I did the Burwell DIY on the sear and the striker block. After I was done, the sear looked very similar to #3 in the pics you and PaPow posted.
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Old March 9th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #17
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Hi Yankee,
have you tried calling S&W yet... if you call them, make sure they forward your call to the PC shop. The people answering the phones when you call customer service aren`t to bright... as a matter of fact, they are clueless. Ask them to put you thru to the PC shop. I called the PC shop quite awhile back, they sent me a PC sear for my standard 9mm shield with no problem. I installed it in my standard shield, oh man what a difference...like night & day difference. Of course this all happened long before the PC 9mm Shield ever came out. I have also bought the PC 9mm ported shield when it came out... very nice gun. Definitely big difference between the standard shield sear and the PC shield sear.

Actually, there was no change... I`m sure you already know this, the PRO sear is NOT the same as what they put in the PC guns. Here is what happened... some PC sears HAVE slipped into the PRO series guns on occasion, (thats why you dont see it that often, and leads people to believe there was a change) but only because they may have run out of the standard sears at the time of production... or the newbie they hired on the production line didnt know the difference, ran out of standard sears, grabbed the next handful, being PC sears, goes on an on, who knows what goes on behind the lines...lol. Not like we haven`t heard of or seen that before... happens more than one thinks, whether its by mistake, or on purpose, it happens. This is why some people will fight over telling you that ALL PRO`s have the PC sear, when its actually not true at all. What IS true, some do, most dont. Kinda like the flavor of today, is....etc etc etc.


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Thanks PaPow I have thought along the lines of the same mods that you describe. I wouldn't touch the sear either unless it was rough nor would I touch the top of the striker block (only bevel the edges more) which would be a fools move with no potential for anything but disaster. I'll likely leave the loop on the trigger bar alone for now as I don't have an adjustable trigger stop and don't want a lot of over-travel.

Your info on the M&P Pro sears sometimes being switched for the M&P PC sears at the factory has been quite helpful. I have learned from you and others not to order a Pro Sear unless the description fits the PC sear after questioning the seller. I called the S&W Performance Center and while the rep was very helpful he cannot send me a PC sear free or for money. The gun has to go back for the whole PC package which I don't want to do. I suspect that Smith could make more money if the company was willing to sell parts but the rep can't make those decisions. I do know where there is one PC sear which came out of an M&P Core model but the price is quite stiff. The S&W Performance Center rep did confirm that all M&P PC Sears are all the same regardless of the size or caliber pistol they are put in. That info will be helpful to know for others as well.

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Yankee, my Pro Series .40 was made in 2012 if I remember correctly. Before I replaced the trigger I did the Burwell DIY on the sear and the striker block. After I was done, the sear looked very similar to #3 in the pics you and PaPow posted.
Thanks Bill. I'm going to try to find a PC sear.

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Thanks Bill. I'm going to try to find a PC sear.
There's always the Apex sear...
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Thanks PaPow I have thought along the lines of the same mods that you describe. I wouldn't touch the sear either unless it was rough nor would I touch the top of the striker block (only bevel the edges more) which would be a fools move with no potential for anything but disaster. I'll likely leave the loop on the trigger bar alone for now as I don't have an adjustable trigger stop and don't want a lot of over-travel.

Your info on the M&P Pro sears sometimes being switched for the M&P PC sears at the factory has been quite helpful. I have learned from you and others not to order a Pro Sear unless the description fits the PC sear after questioning the seller. I called the S&W Performance Center and while the rep was very helpful he cannot send me a PC sear free or for money. The gun has to go back for the whole PC package which I don't want to do. I suspect that Smith could make more money if the company was willing to sell parts but the rep can't make those decisions. I do know where there is one PC sear which came out of an M&P Core model but the price is quite stiff. The S&W Performance Center rep did confirm that all M&P PC Sears are all the same regardless of the size or caliber pistol they are put in. That info will be helpful to know for others as well.
Yeah i had heard recently from others that S&W quit giving out PC sears, but i didnt know if what i was told was really truthful or not, i guess we all know the truth now... and that sucks bigtime. As for me getting a couple PC sear`s in the past, lets just say i had a friend of a friend help me get my PC sear`s from S&W.

Yankee, as Brian K said, i would recommend an apex sear too. Its the closest you`ll get to a PC sear, and you CAN get them from apex. They ARE a really nice made sear... cant go wrong with them. I think they are around $35 bucks if i remember right.

Wish i could have helped you more my friend
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I agree with PaPow, Rick, and Brian. The Apex sear is much easier to find and not expensive at all.
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The Apex sear is much easier to find and not expensive at all.
I agree with all of that but I want the PC sear for reasons that I've stated above and I now have one on it's way from a forum member. I have experience with the PC sear and like it for my purposes. Others have different needs but the Apex sear wouldn't do anything for me that I want done that the PC sear wouldn't do while it would likely require that I put in a stiffer trigger return spring in order to keep the trigger the way that I want it. That said using the Apex sear would be a no-brainer if one wants a light trigger.

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There's always the Apex sear...
I already tried that with him, he`s gotta have that PC sear.
Whatever fries his bacon i guess, i ain`t gotta eat it...lol... but i do understand why he wants it.
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I already tried that with him, he`s gotta have that PC sear.
Whatever fries his bacon i guess, i ain`t gotta eat it...lol... but i do understand why he wants it.
Ha! I suppose it's just because I want to play with it. That's really it!
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Ha! I suppose it's just because I want to play with it. That's really it!

HAHAHAHAAA... since i`ve known you on here, you`re alot like me, i just gotta play with shit all the time...lol
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HAHAHAHAAA... since i`ve known you on here, you`re alot like me, i just gotta play with shit all the time...lol
I may very well end up trying the Apex Duty/Carry sear at some point along with Apex springs and USB. This is just where I'm starting with my Shield
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I may very well end up trying the Apex Duty/Carry sear at some point along with Apex springs and USB. This is just where I'm starting with my Shield
Well my friend, you seem pretty knowledgeable to me, i think you`ll do just fine with it.
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