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Old March 27th, 2017, 09:32 AM   #16
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Peg , during your shooting sessions alternate your shooting using your "weak" hand . it is a valuable skill to have and will take some of the stress off your "strong" hand.

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Old March 27th, 2017, 10:14 AM   #17
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Peg , during your shooting sessions alternate your shooting using your "weak" hand . it is a valuable skill to have and will take some of the stress off your "strong" hand.

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Thanks Norm, that's one of the things my teacher had us to in my first class. Was very surprised to be able to shoot accurately with my left hand too. Gotta swap out next time.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 05:42 PM   #18
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I think the key thing is to try different placements, looking for the placement that works for you, best accuracy and somewhere that doesn't irritate the nerve in your hand.
I usually use the middle of the finger pad. I tried to shoot with the joint after finding out that while dry-firing, the muzzle jumps towards the shooting hand. I'm right handed, it jumps RIGHT with the right hand and vice versa.

Doesn't seem to make a difference as far as accuracy for me.
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I dont believe people should dictate what part of the finger you should use... you use any part of your finger that makes you hit the bullseye consistently. Everybody is different, no two people shoot the same way. I shoot right handed and left handed, and i only use the first knuckle, and i can shoot a hair off a knat`s azz at 7yds/21ft all day long with either hand.

Once you find what way works for you, you stick with it and hone your trigger skill. We`ve all heard "gun training & the guru gun people" say, that you should only use the middle pad of your finger. In my opinion, it is very wrong to tell people that. Some people just cant shoot with the pad of their finger... and i am one of those people that cant. Everybody has different sized hands/fingers. Therefore, guns fit everybody`s hands differently. Reaching the trigger is different for everybody, which hugely effects where your finger hits the trigger. One thing i see training instructors dont hardly ever mention... following thru with the shot.

Some already know how to do this, and ARE very effective with it, but most aren`t:
You can have all the motor skills, muscle memory you want, BUT, try drawing your gun from the holster as fast as you can... take notice how many times you think you`re landing on the trigger face with the pad of your finger EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU draw. Take a video of yourself, its amazing what you`ll see...many inconsistencies. Do a video of every scenario of a self-defense situation you can... behind a wall, behind something while kneeling, laying down on the floor, or a make believe situation where you`ve been shot.

Anybody can sit here an shoot holes in paper and train to shoot with the certain area of your finger... but my theory behind this is, is how many times can you hit the sweet spot on your trigger in a "self-defense" situation, which is the majority of why we all have guns...is it not...???
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Hi Peg

I also noticed that you are from MA , you probably have a 10 # trigger in that pistol . Just a thought ..... might have a gunsmith or someone that knows what they are doing put an Apex spring kit in it , that will drop the trigger pull down a couple of pounds which could make a HUGE difference in your finger after firing a hundred rounds

I put the spring kit in my SD9VE and it dropped it from 8 to about 6 lbs
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I haven't got as far as holstering yet. I have taken Firearms for Women 101 and 102. I don't want to holster until I take a class on that. I want to go slow and learn correctly so bad/incorrect/unsafe habits don't set in first.

I did some wall practice last night and realized that indeed I am more comfortable triggering right on the joint. I feel like I have more control there. I don't have arthritis in my fingers so I do feel the nerve weirdness is from shooting.

I got my friend's gloves and am going to try shooting with those this weekend.



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I dont believe people should dictate what part of the finger you should use... you use any part of your finger that makes you hit the bullseye consistently. Everybody is different, no two people shoot the same way. I shoot right handed and left handed, and i only use the first knuckle, and i can shoot a hair off a knat`s azz at 7yds/21ft all day long with either hand.

Once you find what way works for you, you stick with it and hone your trigger skill. We`ve all heard "gun training & the guru gun people" say, that you should only use the middle pad of your finger. In my opinion, it is very wrong to tell people that. Some people just cant shoot with the pad of their finger... and i am one of those people that cant. Everybody has different sized hands/fingers. Therefore, guns fit everybody`s hands differently. Reaching the trigger is different for everybody, which hugely effects where your finger hits the trigger. One thing i see training instructors dont hardly ever mention... following thru with the shot.

Some already know how to do this, and ARE very effective with it, but most aren`t:
You can have all the motor skills, muscle memory you want, BUT, try drawing your gun from the holster as fast as you can... take notice how many times you think you`re landing on the trigger face with the pad of your finger EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU draw. Take a video of yourself, its amazing what you`ll see...many inconsistencies. Do a video of every scenario of a self-defense situation you can... behind a wall, behind something while kneeling, laying down on the floor, or a make believe situation where you`ve been shot.

Anybody can sit here an shoot holes in paper and train to shoot with the certain area of your finger... but my theory behind this is, is how many times can you hit the sweet spot on your trigger in a "self-defense" situation, which is the majority of why we all have guns...is it not...???
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I haven't got as far as holstering yet. I have taken Firearms for Women 101 and 102. I don't want to holster until I take a class on that. I want to go slow and learn correctly so bad/incorrect/unsafe habits don't set in first.

I did some wall practice last night and realized that indeed I am more comfortable triggering right on the joint. I feel like I have more control there. I don't have arthritis in my fingers so I do feel the nerve weirdness is from shooting.

I got my friend's gloves and am going to try shooting with those this weekend.
Peg, your on the right track to doing it right... star1 advised having your trigger lightend up to help you better, i totally agree with that..! Baby steps, you`ll get there. I will add something as well, do take the time to look at how others train, as this could open up new avenues for you. What one instructor lacks, other instructors may have others things that might help you even more. We can ALL learn from many others over the course of training. Let it be known, there ARE some pretty shitty instructors out there, so be cautious of all of them.

I too, have FAR better control using the first knuckle... the gun/trigger just hit on the money for me that way.
Dont let anyone tell you that you cant use your first knuckle. You shoot however is comfortable and accurately for you, you control the gun, not them.

Try balancing a dime on top of your front sight and pulling the trigger, and dry fire the gun (no mag, and gun empty of course)
If you can dry fire the gun 10 times without dropping the dime... well you get the picture.

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Peg, if you have a mass compliant shield, that thing has a 10.5 pound trigger pull on it.
When I originally got mine it killed my finger as well.
have a gunsmith fix that trigger up for you and you should have no problems.
If you are near Woburn Four seasons will put in an Apex kit for you in the store.
I know several very good gunsmiths in the state (all over) where abouts are you in Mass?
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Do as I say don't do as I do...

When I got commissioned as a Deputy I had to learn how to shoot a revolver double action, as a civilian I shot revolvers single action, and double action autos weren't widely available at that time.

I leaned using the first joint, I later shot PPC and worked up to Master class using the first joint on both hands, it worked for me.

What worked for me may not work for you, but try a variety of things to find out what works FOR YOU.
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If you have your trigger reworked might want to try a flat trigger from apex. This trigger helped me.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 05:51 AM   #26
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Peg, if you have a mass compliant shield, that thing has a 10.5 pound trigger pull on it.
When I originally got mine it killed my finger as well.
have a gunsmith fix that trigger up for you and you should have no problems.
If you are near Woburn Four seasons will put in an Apex kit for you in the store.
I know several very good gunsmiths in the state (all over) where abouts are you in Mass?
Oh everyone, I totally forgot that there is the required 10 pound pull on the trigger, thanks for reminding me! In addition to all the other good advice, I absolutely want to get the trigger pull to be less. How could I forget about that?? Doh!

kmnaick I bought the Shield at Four Seasons. Can they fix it up there?

Thanks!!

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Thanks I will try dry firing with the dime. Should show how much or little trigger control I have...

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Peg, your on the right track to doing it right... star1 advised having your trigger lightend up to help you better, i totally agree with that..! Baby steps, you`ll get there. I will add something as well, do take the time to look at how others train, as this could open up new avenues for you. What one instructor lacks, other instructors may have others things that might help you even more. We can ALL learn from many others over the course of training. Let it be known, there ARE some pretty shitty instructors out there, so be cautious of all of them.

I too, have FAR better control using the first knuckle... the gun/trigger just hit on the money for me that way.
Dont let anyone tell you that you cant use your first knuckle. You shoot however is comfortable and accurately for you, you control the gun, not them.

Try balancing a dime on top of your front sight and pulling the trigger, and dry fire the gun (no mag, and gun empty of course)
If you can dry fire the gun 10 times without dropping the dime... well you get the picture.
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Old April 5th, 2017, 11:24 AM   #28
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Oh everyone, I totally forgot that there is the required 10 pound pull on the trigger, thanks for reminding me! In addition to all the other good advice, I absolutely want to get the trigger pull to be less. How could I forget about that?? Doh!

kmnaick I bought the Shield at Four Seasons. Can they fix it up there?

Thanks!!
4 Seasons offers the apex trigger installed 99.95. I haven't been over there as I am in Western MA.
Here is their url
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4 Seasons offers the apex trigger installed 99.95. I haven't been over there as I am in Western MA.
Here is their url
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Thanks
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I just had Four Seasons put in the Apex trigger kit. World of difference! I think my finger will live now
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