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Old April 8th, 2017, 02:33 PM   #1
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out of the box accuracy

New pistol 4/03
Shoots 4" to the left at 10 yards. fantastic groups just off to left
Have adjustment tool and plan to move front sight.
Just wondering how many others have had similar issues, or are they ready to rock straight from box.

Experienced shooter, Please no advise to have other shooters try, or change grip.

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Old April 8th, 2017, 08:12 PM   #2
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That is pretty common, attached find a sheet that fixes the problem for 99% of the shooters.
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Shield sights are usually aligned quite well out-of-the-box.
Odds are the solution to your grouping is in the diagram above, pick a sector.

Don't understand why you are adjusting the front sight, does it appear off-center on the slide.

FYI - probably going to be easier to adjust the rear sight rather than front sight.
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Manual says don't adjust rear sight.

My universal sight adjuster worked, just had to remove lower shim.

Will shoot today and see what happens.
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New pistol 4/03
Shoots 4" to the left at 10 yards. fantastic groups just off to left
Have adjustment tool and plan to move front sight.
Just wondering how many others have had similar issues, or are they ready to rock straight from box.

Experienced shooter, Please no advise to have other shooters try, or change grip.

Thanks, TVC15
I`m not trying to be an azzhole here, but if you`re experienced, i`m curious to why your asking these kinds of questions. First of all, i wouldn`t touch the front sight unless you can actually see that its way off from center. Move the rear sight, its much easier. AND, no mention on the ammo used... or if you even tried several different ammo brands...??? Is your grip hold and shooting form consistent...??? And being that you say you`re experienced, i shouldn`t have to tell you that its not uncommon for the gun to shoot this way until you get at least a couple hundred rounds thru it. I would try some different ammo (AMERICAN AMMO) and bullet weights to see if you notice any change.
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sorry but your being an azzhole
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Thought I posted earlier.
Manual says not to change back sight. Move front sight if necessary
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Old April 9th, 2017, 12:38 PM   #10
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Manual says don't adjust rear sight.

My universal sight adjuster worked, just had to remove lower shim.

Will shoot today and see what happens.
Hmm, mine didn't have a lower shim, can you describe or maybe post a pic of the shim?

Duh...disregard my post, just reread yours and think you are talking about a shim for the sight pusher!

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TVC, act as though we were in a room with you and could deck you, and not on the 'net. Or do you want us to s*** on you? (we don't do that if that's what you expect) You came to us, we didn't seek you out and we're trying to help. You need to provide information since none of us passed mind reading 101. You also owe an apology between men.

Why wouldn't you move the rear sight based on what you wrote? Tell us more and not less. Let us know why front and not rear sight. "Because I want to" is reason enough if that's all there is.
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TVC, act as though we were in a room with you and could deck you, and not on the 'net. Or do you want us to s*** on you? (we don't do that if that's what you expect) You came to us, we didn't seek you out and we're trying to help. You need to provide information since none of us passed mind reading 101. You also owe an apology between men.

Why wouldn't you move the rear sight based on what you wrote? Tell us more and not less. Let us know why front and not rear sight. "Because I want to" is reason enough if that's all there is.
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looks like (to me) this guy TVC dosent really want help or ideas from anyone...
Oh wait, he`s experienced... so i`ll stand down at this point because i`m such an azzhole for trying to help.
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sorry but your being an azzhole
Not a problem budd, i wont try to help you then... carry on
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https://www.amazon.com/Handgun-pushe.../dp/B0125M9LRS
Hard to beat for the price. And I don't like the idea of hitting slide with punch and hammer.

Used wrong term. should have said block. I just turned it 90 degees marked position with pencil moved it about half pencil width.
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Don't understand why you are adjusting the front sight, does it appear off-center on the slide.

FYI - probably going to be easier to adjust the rear sight rather than front sight.
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First of all, i wouldn`t touch the front sight unless you can actually see that its way off from center. Move the rear sight, its much easier.
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Why wouldn't you move the rear sight based on what you wrote? Tell us more and not less. Let us know why front and not rear sight. "Because I want to" is reason enough if that's all there is.
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The rear sight is not adjustable. No attempt should be made to move the rear sight on this model. Removal of the sight and replacement should only be performed by a gunsmith who is familiar with Smith & Wesson products.

The front sight (FIGURE 47) can be drifted left or right to adjust windage.
S&W understands that it is easier (and wiser) to advise adjusting the front sight than to try to explain the nuances of the relationships between the rear sight and the striker block that are involved in adjusting the rear sight.

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