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Old May 4th, 2017, 05:09 PM   #1
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Gun is a ported 9mm shield. I put about 75 rounds through it so far, slide is very hard to rack. cleaned it first and put some slide-glide on. Feels the same after shooting.How many more rounds before getting easier to rack?
Are they all like this when new? Thanks
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I haven't felt YOUR slide, but all of the small pistols are very difficult to rack, I can barely rack my 9mm slide and I can't rack the slide on a 40 at all. I also have full size pistols in 9 and 40 and don't have any problems with their slides at all.
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Gun is a ported 9mm shield. I put about 75 rounds through it so far, slide is very hard to rack. cleaned it first and put some slide-glide on. Feels the same after shooting.How many more rounds before getting easier to rack?
Are they all like this when new? Thanks
G56 is correct... my opinion as well, the smaller the gun, the harder they`ll rack in most cases. The shield is likely one of the harder smaller concealable guns to rack. Yes, ALL the shields rack hard. I have a PC ported 9mm shield, few thousand rounds thru it now, its much easier to rack. And no harder to rack than my G43 now. Just something you`ll have to live with for awhile, certainly not a deal breaker by any means. My wife had a Kahr CW9 that was far worse to rack compared to the shields. Thankfully she dumped it and bought a glock 43, which by far a much nicer gun all the way around over the CW9 for her. Even the accuracy of the CW9 was just plain horrible. I tried to get her to buy a shield, but she couldn`t rack any of them at the LGS, but the G43 was easier for her to rack and it fit here much better. She shoots the hell out of it better than my shields. Anyway.... dont give up on that shield, they really do loosen up a bit after a few hundred rounds. Keep it clean, lube the hell out of it with a good synthetic motor oil. (Mobil1 or Pennzoil Platinum, are perfect gun lubes)
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The reason it's hard to rack is due to the force required to keep the slide closed until the pressure lowers to a safe level. If the slide is lighter the spring must be stronger. Go to a .380 and the requirements to hold things closed are lessened to get the job done.

OK, so working backwards, the larger (heavier) the gun and slide the less spring pressure is required and the easier it is to rack. Or the lower powered the round the lighter the slide and spring needs to be to keep things in check.

789mm, I suspect you might be older, of course I could be wrong. There are guns that would be more suitable for folks who find the small autos to be troublesome. They're called revolvers. I'm not picking on you. Many of us are right behind you, me included, and we need to keep this stuff in mind.
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Gun is a ported 9mm shield. I put about 75 rounds through it so far, slide is very hard to rack. cleaned it first and put some slide-glide on. Feels the same after shooting.How many more rounds before getting easier to rack?
Are they all like this when new? Thanks
Spray your recoil spring assembly with dri-lube... does wonders...!
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Shoot about 500 rds and it will be considerably easier to rack.
Also try the PUSH method. Grip slide with weak hand and use strong hand to "push" the gun forward.(be sure the muzzle is down range of course)
Seems to help alot of folks with no so much grip strength and or small compact SA gun.


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I am 66 6'3" 255 but have trouble with my hands. I do have a revolver Colt Python 4" satin , but i don't want to carry that. Thanks for all of your answers. I will try the dry lube.
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ya , I'd say about 500-600 rounds is about right. mine is considerably easier to rack now than it was when brand new.
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I am 66 6'3" 255 but have trouble with my hands. I do have a revolver Colt Python 4" satin , but i don't want to carry that. Thanks for all of your answers. I will try the dry lube.
Dont be shy with that dri-lube... soak it good, let it dry, put a couple coats of it on, then install it, you`ll be MUCH happier.
Oil up those slide rails too... it will help polish the inside of the slide and rails and become much smoother working.
After about 500+ rounds, you`ll notice it starting to work better. Get upwards to 1K rounds, even better yet.
I also clean my mags, then spray the insides of them with dri-lube... huge feeding improvement.

Yeah i sure as hell wouldn`t carry that colt either...! Can`t blame you for that...!!!
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Dont be shy with that dri-lube... soak it good, let it dry, put a couple coats of it on, then install it, you`ll be MUCH happier.

I also clean my mags, then spray the insides of them with dri-lube... huge feeding improvement.
Thanks pops. I followed your tip (I used the LW RV dry lube) and the slide is MUCH better now. Very helpful tip.

Did the mags too, including the difficult to reassemble 7 rounders, which are now a snap to reassemble following another tip on here about pushing the two ears very forward.

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Talking Slide Racking

I have a Shield .45 and have no trouble racking the slide. By the way, I'm 68 years old.
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789, I am 86 & I had a Shield when they first came out & got rid of it in a month because it was so hard to rack. I got a ported Shield & after only about 200 rounds I can rack it ok.

I put Talon grip material on all my hard to rack slides & it really helps.I also got a Handi Racker for all my slides & that is a must have for us old guys. They make several different kinds & they all work good. I got a new M&P 9c & it was harder than the Shield & the Talon made it much easier. I think more than anything is our fingers get weak & can't hold on to the slide. The recoil on them both is real good. I can shoot a hundred rounds easily.
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Thanks pops. I followed your tip (I used the LW RV dry lube) and the slide is MUCH better now. Very helpful tip.

Did the mags too, including the difficult to reassemble 7 rounders, which are now a snap to reassemble following another tip on here about pushing the tow ears very forward.
Your very welcome John. Its worked wonders for me for many years.
Get some hot rounds thru it, it`ll become easier once it wears in a little.
Once you get upwards towards 500+ rounds, you`ll be very impressed with the gun.

This forum is full of good ideas that DO work, and is also one of my favorite forums.
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Your very welcome John. Its worked wonders for me for many years.
Get some hot rounds thru it, it`ll become easier once it wears in a little.
Once you get upwards towards 500+ rounds, you`ll be very impressed with the gun.

This forum is full of good ideas that DO work, and is also one of my favorite forums.
+1, I'm lovin' the Shield.

My standard Shield loosened up nicely at 3-400 rounds.
My ported Shield started to feel similar at 200 rounds.

Both, when new, had really stiff, gritty, recoil springs (you could hear the springs crunch as it compresses and decompresses lol)
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