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This is a discussion on Break in ammo? within the MP SHIELD Pistols forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by PaPow The only break in i`m aware of, is the ammo i use is when somebody breaks in...hehehe I used WWB and ...


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Old May 11th, 2017, 06:14 AM   #16
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The only break in i`m aware of, is the ammo i use is when somebody breaks in...hehehe
I used WWB and Federal from welfare-mart (wal-mart) to break in all my new guns. 500 rounds each.
I`ve shot a ton of the federal aluminum and the wwb steal case ammo... worked perfectly fine in my shields.
Black box tulammo bad idea... has a lacquer coating on the cases to keep them from rusting.
It WILL gum up your chamber if you fire it several times without letting the gun cool off.
Stick with american made ammo, you`ll be happier.

Just a quick note too Sr20ser84,
watch out for crimped primers in WWB ammo, that shit is HOT, likely NATO rounds mixed in with their bulk white box ammo.
Ill see how they work out and switch to the federal for the remainder of break in.

I don't know much about the crimped rounds other than how to tell them apart and having to tap them to reload. Should I go through the boxes and pull any found or or just send them through with the rest?
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Old May 11th, 2017, 07:21 AM   #17
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Ill see how they work out and switch to the federal for the remainder of break in.

I don't know much about the crimped rounds other than how to tell them apart and having to tap them to reload. Should I go through the boxes and pull any found or or just send them through with the rest?
Just look at them before you buy them... you`ll see the crimp around the primer.
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Damn! I'm not sure I will have time for 500rds, but I am going to fit in as much as possible to get this thing broken in sooner. Hopefully 2-300 this time out. We will see.
I simply used one target over multiple shooting sessions. Initial firing session was with the NATO Spec ball FMJ with follow on shooting sessions with the Federal HST and Winchester Ranger 147Gr-JHP. Its somewhat easier when you have multiple magazines and magazine loading tool.
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You can clean your pistol anytime you want, but as far as I know there isn't any coating on the aluminum cased ammo. Generally speaking don't put too much stock into those 'A guy at the range told me...' most of those guys don't know what they are talking about.


I'm sorry, I'm new here and didn't know your the expert here. I'll refrain from commenting. Guess my personal experiance doesn't count. Please continue ....
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Old May 11th, 2017, 11:56 AM   #20
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Just look at them before you buy them... you`ll see the crimp around the primer.
Ha, too late my dude I already bought them.

But I just looked at them and if I'm remembering the differences correctly, then I think I'm good. The case is more rounded where the primer is pressed vs. The crimped, kind of ring around the primer. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

I know I've used them in my old PM9 with no problems, but ill soon find out
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I simply used one target over multiple shooting sessions. Initial firing session was with the NATO Spec ball FMJ with follow on shooting sessions with the Federal HST and Winchester Ranger 147Gr-JHP. Its somewhat easier when you have multiple magazines and magazine loading tool.
I've got the three mags I have, loaded to capacity hoping it will somewhat loosen the spring tension by tomorrow. I couldn't load the last two rounds in either of the 7 or 8rd mags by hand. Had to use an old cheap mg loader, although it got the job done, its definitely time for an upgrade.
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Had to use an old cheap mg loader, although it got the job done, its definitely time for an upgrade.
9mm to 45ACP UpLULA pistol magazine loader and unloader www.maglula.com (loads both single stack and double stack magazines)
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Ha, too late my dude I already bought them.

But I just looked at them and if I'm remembering the differences correctly, then I think I'm good. The case is more rounded where the primer is pressed vs. The crimped, kind of ring around the primer. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

I know I've used them in my old PM9 with no problems, but ill soon find out
LOL... you are correct sir... sounds like you got the good ones. Hope all goes well budd... shoot da hell out of it...
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9mm to 45ACP UpLULA pistol magazine loader and unloader www.maglula.com (loads both single stack and double stack magazines)
The maglula works ok on my 9 shield mags, not so well on my 45 shield... the 45 loaded round hangs up when loading it into the mag... i have to wiggle it around to make sure the case is seated all the way to the back of the mag, then i can release the maglula and lift it up to ready it for the next round. Anybody else notice that when loading your shield 45 mags..??? Maybe its just me... i`ll have to practice loading them again and see why its not allowing me to seat the round all the to the back of the mag without having to wiggle it around. I know i`m pushing the maglula down enough... works great with any of the other mags i have, just not as good with the 45 shield mags.
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I'm sorry, I'm new here and didn't know your the expert here. I'll refrain from commenting. Guess my personal experiance doesn't count. Please continue ....
If i`m understanding your statement correctly, i think you might have misunderstood G56 a little bit. I`m pretty sure he was speaking of a certain type of people that think they know something when they actually dont. Anyone who has spent any amount of time at any gun range, knows there are ALWAYS a few people there that think they are the expert after buying a gun the day before when they`ve never owned one previously. We`ve all ran into those kinds of people at the range. I myself, try to stay away from gun ranges... i see more dumb people than smart people there. Some are just down right idiots that have no business even handling a gun, let alone allowed to even own one.

Kind of reminds me of an old saying... yezderday, i co`dint spells gun, and today i own one

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9mm to 45ACP UpLULA pistol magazine loader and unloader www.maglula.com (loads both single stack and double stack magazines)
That seemed to be the consensus reading around here, so I ordered one yesterday after the old loader fiasco.

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LOL... you are correct sir... sounds like you got the good ones. Hope all goes well budd... shoot da hell out of it...
Appreciate the help, I'll holler back tomorrow with an update 👍
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That seemed to be the consensus reading around here, so I ordered one yesterday after the old loader fiasco.



Appreciate the help, I'll holler back tomorrow with an update 👍
Your very welcome Sr20ser84.
Absolutely, let us know how it went.

Your gonna love that maglula.
Takes a minute to figure it out, but you`ll be glad you bought it.
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Ill see how they work out and switch to the federal for the remainder of break in.

I don't know much about the crimped rounds other than how to tell them apart and having to tap them to reload. Should I go through the boxes and pull any found or or just send them through with the rest?
I believe the NATO rounds are all in 124gr bullet weight WWB.

115gr should be fine.
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If i`m understanding your statement correctly, i think you might have misunderstood G56 a little bit. I`m pretty sure he was speaking of a certain type of people that think they know something when they actually dont. Anyone who has spent any amount of time at any gun range, knows there are ALWAYS a few people there that think they are the expert after buying a gun the day before when they`ve never owned one previously. We`ve all ran into those kinds of people at the range. I myself, try to stay away from gun ranges... i see more dumb people than smart people there. Some are just down right idiots that have no business even handling a gun, let alone allowed to even own one.

Kind of reminds me of an old saying... yezderday, i co`dint spells gun, and today i own one
Me too. In my experience; G56 doesn't make personal attacks on anyone.
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I believe the NATO rounds are all in 124gr bullet weight WWB.

115gr should be fine.

I gotsta correct you, you ole coot... the 115 WWB is known to have mixed lots of crimped and non crimped. (keep in mind, we`re only talkin about the 100 round and 200 round bulk boxes) It was hit an miss every time i use to buy them. I didnt even pay any attention to it until i started to reload a few once fired WWB i had sittin around. Primers came out real hard, and thats when i investigated what had happened.

From that point on, i was making the sales people at wal-mart open the boxes before i would buy them. It was like half the lots were crimped, next shipment would be regular. When the ammo shortage was in high gear, i believe winchester just shipped whatever they had just to keep up with demand. Gotta put out product to keep those CEO`s happy yah know. Or it could have been some disgruntled workers just fillin boxes without even caring. Who knows, but i guarantee winchester wont tell you.

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I`ve even seen some of the WWB 115gr NATO cases have strange looking head stampings. Some even had a triangle stamped into them.
The only 2 places i buy WWB (100rd & 200rd bulk) was either wal-mart or field&stream. Both places had mixed lots of 115gr WWB, crimped/uncrimped.

The only 124gr NATO i`ve seen is in 50rd boxes. I`ve never seen it in 100rd & 200rd like they sell at wal-mart. At least not in my area anyway.

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