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Did I Just Damage My New Shield?

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Old May 10th, 2017, 08:28 PM   #1
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Unhappy Did I Just Damage My New Shield?

I don't know if it's a faux pas to ask for help in your first post to the general forums, but here's the deal.

FedEx just delivered my new Shield a few days ago and I take it to the range and put five boxes through it, no problemo. At home I clean it up, lube it and I'm going to re-assemble it, so I'm sipping the slide back on, trying to lock it into the rear position so I can raise the disassembly lever to complete the process and WHAM! Oily fingers let the slide slam forward with full force. All that energy wasn't stopped by the beefy pin attached to the disassembly lever, but by the little hook of the striker crashing into the tiny sear.

I'm expecting to see pieces rattling around in there when I get the slide back off, but everything SEEMS to be in it's proper place. The problem is that I just got this thing and I'm not too sure how things are SUPPOSED to look. The gun seems to dryfire OK and I can't see any clearly damaged parts. If anyone has any suggestions about what to look out for, that would be great.

If I'd disassembled it by the book, I'd have lowered the sear disconnector and the only bad thing that would have happened then would have been that the slide would have simply launched itself across the room and maybe broken a lamp or window. Maybe following the manufacturer's instructions instead of Youtube videos is the best policy.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 09:12 AM   #2
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Best advice I can give you? Common sense came into the picture at the end of your post..

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Old May 11th, 2017, 09:20 AM   #3
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It is fine. Carry on...
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S&W M&P's are pretty tough so no worries!
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Old May 11th, 2017, 08:31 PM   #5
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Only thing that seems to be hurt, was your pride...
Its a tough gun, it`ll be just fine... now go shoot that shield...!

And your NEW nickname in here will be.... Mr.SLIPPERY SLIDE
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That has happened to me a few times especially with my 9mm Shield. Welcome.
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Old May 12th, 2017, 03:18 AM   #7
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Great in theory not always so good in practice.

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Old May 13th, 2017, 05:45 AM   #9
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I`ll likely take some heat for this comment/opinion... BUT it is what it is.

Some people can read the manual, and still not know what they`re doing. Some people are just very clumsy as well. Many scenario`s makes a gun dangerous, but only when its in the hands of a human. But yet they are still allowed to own/carry a firearm somehow. There is never enough training to qualify people the right way to do things. It should become mandatory that people should be able to tear down the pistol, right down to removing the internal parts, put all it back together, and qualify on a combat gun range BEFORE they can buy/carry a weapon. There are just way to many idiots handling firearms, loaded AND unloaded. I dont know what the statistics are, for accidental firearm accidents, but i`m betting its extremely high i`m sure. Even if the firearm is empty, people still find a way to have accidents. There is no clear way to fix stupid, other than take the toy away from the child.
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Pretty arrogant attitude. The fact of the matter is with the millions of firearms in the hands of millions of people in the USA, the incidences of accidental discharges are few and far between. Sure, it happens, there's no disputing that, but you make it sound like it's an out of control problem, which is nowhere near factual.

Also, every firearm owner does not need to know how to completely disassemble their firearm down to the small pieces, field stripping is fine, what you're suggesting is simply trouble looking for a place to happen.

60 years old, been around firearms since I was eighteen, policeman for over 25 years, so yeah, I'm qualified to make those statements.
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Pretty arrogant attitude. The fact of the matter is with the millions of firearms in the hands of millions of people in the USA, the incidences of accidental discharges are few and far between. Sure, it happens, there's no disputing that, but you make it sound like it's an out of control problem, which is nowhere near factual.

Also, every firearm owner does not need to know how to completely disassemble their firearm down to the small pieces, field stripping is fine, what you're suggesting is simply trouble looking for a place to happen.

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I never said it was out of control. Are you a firearms instructor...??? If you are, then you totally missed my point. I`ve trained many new handgun owners for more than 30+yrs, more than half of them shouldnt even own/have a firearm. There isnt much of anything more dangerous than someone with a firearm without a clue. I`m not easy on people when it comes to firearms training... you`re not going to get any sugar cookies in my classroom. I also do not have a safe space for students to cry either. I wont sugar coat anything... i`ll tell people in a heartbeat where the bear shits in the woods. I take firearms VERY seriously... if you think thats too arrogant...oh well. I want my students to KNOW what they`re doing when they are done in my class. There is no room for mistakes... guns can kill you or hurt/kill some innocent bystander if your an idiot... god knows, we have ALOTTA idiots out there, and they carry guns.
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I never said it was out of control. Are you a firearms instructor...??? If you are, then you totally missed my point. I`ve trained many new handgun owners for more than 30+yrs, more than half of them shouldnt even own/have a firearm. There isnt much of anything more dangerous than someone with a firearm without a clue. I`m not easy on people when it comes to firearms training... you`re not going to get any sugar cookies in my classroom. I also do not have a safe space for students to cry either. I wont sugar coat anything... i`ll tell people in a heartbeat where the bear shits in the woods. I take firearms VERY seriously... if you think thats too arrogant...oh well. I want my students to KNOW what they`re doing when they are done in my class. There is no room for mistakes... guns can kill you or hurt/kill some innocent bystander if your an idiot... god knows, we have ALOTTA idiots out there, and they carry guns.


There alot of people in US who shouldnt own cars or be allowed to drive.
Most received some type of training. IE Drivers Ed or driving instruction rules of the road etc. Nothing more dangerous than an idiot behind the wheel with out a clue and I likely see at least 20 a day who "qualify"

An idiot in a car can easily kill others with his/her carelessness.

In the immortal words of Axel Rose (Guns n Roses)
Some men you just cant teach.

Idiots and arrogance are everywhere not just gun owners.






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There alot of people in US who shouldnt own cars or be allowed to drive.
Most received some type of training. IE Drivers Ed or driving instruction rules of the road etc. Nothing more dangerous than an idiot behind the wheel with out a clue and I likely see at least 20 a day who "qualify"

An idiot in a car can easily kill others with his/her carelessness.

In the immortal words of Axel Rose (Guns n Roses)
Some men you just cant teach.

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Absolutely no argument there...!!! Lets include people on the road too.
I guess we can all agree that we can just chalk it all up to human error.
Now if people would just slow down a little bit, and THINK, before they do something.
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Absolutely no argument there...!!! Lets include people on the road too.

I guess we can all agree that we can just chalk it all up to human error.

Now if people would just slow down a little bit, and THINK, before they do something.


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I`ll likely take some heat for this comment/opinion... BUT it is what it is.

Some people can read the manual, and still not know what they`re doing. Some people are just very clumsy as well. Many scenario`s makes a gun dangerous, but only when its in the hands of a human. But yet they are still allowed to own/carry a firearm somehow. There is never enough training to qualify people the right way to do things. It should become mandatory that people should be able to tear down the pistol, right down to removing the internal parts, put all it back together, and qualify on a combat gun range BEFORE they can buy/carry a weapon. There are just way to many idiots handling firearms, loaded AND unloaded. I dont know what the statistics are, for accidental firearm accidents, but i`m betting its extremely high i`m sure. Even if the firearm is empty, people still find a way to have accidents. There is no clear way to fix stupid, other than take the toy away from the child.
Well, Pa; the 2A recognizes a right that we all have, although it has been seriously eroded by our government, and I certainly wouldn't want it eroded further by training requirements (determined by who, overseen by who, etc.) or anything else.

That said; I believe that it's the responsibility of every firearm owner to seek a degree of training commensurate with their intended firearm useage. Obviously, that could easily change (and most likely would) throughout their life, so the level and degree of firearms training would vary greatly, based on one's interests, job requirements, and even location (inner city thug-hole vs say a private island).

While I shoot IDPA weekly as a means to practice the skills I've obtained through years of training, (and I have no intention to stop either the practice or training); requiring most gun owners to do the same would be unrealistic, to say the least.
I believe the exception to that would be an occupational requirement, based on someone's chosen profession (military, LEO, etc.) that requires firearms useage as a condition of employment.

If the government or anyone else can place conditions on a "right;" it's no longer a "right."
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