M&P9 vs M&P40: Recoil/Muzzle Flip

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Old April 7th, 2008, 08:41 AM   #1
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I've never been a big fan of the .40S&W round because the increase in recoil and muzzle flip didn't seem to justify the slight ballistic advantage over 9mm. But... I recently bought my first M&P in 9mm, and after a few trips to the range I am REALLY impressed by how soft it shoots in general, and how well I seem to shoot it compared to a few of my other 9mm handguns.



So I was wondering. How much more does the M&P40 kick than the M&P9?



With the design on the M&P being so conducive to minimizing felt recoil (lower bore axis, interchangable backstraps), does it make the .40S&W feel a little more tame? Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to shoot an M&P40, but I'm really tempted to jump on one before the rebate ends.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #2
 
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I sold my G27 after I bought a M&P 40c and took them to the range to compare.



I shoot the M&P enough better that I took a loss selling all my Glock stuff and now I have purchased a M&P9c for my wife and son to shoot.



The .40 is a bit more difficult to control but it is much better in the M&P than in my G27.



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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:58 PM   #3
 
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My experiences with the .40S&W round are that in a Glock 22, it's horrible for muzzle flip and felt recoil. That's the full size Glock .40 and it was awful. My Kahr K40 that I had was easier to shoot than the G22 was, and the Kahr was half the size of the G22. I'll stick with my M&P9 and M&P9c as my pistols of choice.



With the right ammo, and knowing how to shoot decently, a 9mm can do everything a .40 can do, at least in my opinion.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:34 PM   #4
 
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I've got an M&P 40 full size,and the recoil seems to be about half of what it was in either my Beretta 96, or my Taurus PT24/7 both 40s. I couldn't get either of them to shoot very good, to many FTE's in the Beretta,and the Taurus didn't have the best sights. As soon as I picked up my M&P and put the bullets where I was aiming I was hooked on it. I love the bigger hole that the 40 puts in anything it hits.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:48 PM   #5
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I love the 40. I'm so used to it that when I pick up a nine and put a few rounds through, I think "Eh..."



The grip is everything. Get two hands on the thing and let 'em fly. I saw one woman firing an M&P, might have even been a nine, tea-cupping the thing. Every shot the muzzle would fly up. When I first saw her shooting from behind, I though she was using a 45 Colt. Then i saw it was an M&P auto and the way she was holding it. Bleh....



While I would tell people to develop one-hand shooting "just in case", shooting like she was all the time is not conductive to good groups. I can see a Weaver stance, but thats still two hands.

I can see where tea-cupping can hit targets, but only if you understand that you have to stabilize solidly with the weak hand and push down hard with the gun. It's not too different in theory from shooting prone with the gun on the ground.

I'll stick with my Isoceles, thumbs forward, thank you.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:59 PM   #6
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There is quite a difference in the 40 to the 9 in the MP in felt recoil. I notice a lack in accuracy with the 40 compared to the 9 during rapid fire. I have become quite used to the 40 though....and I feel like it is good training for me to use it......because when I pick up the 9.....it feels like all the rnds are going through the same hole.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 06:34 AM   #7
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I guess I should've qualified my original question by saying that I am interested in building a USPSA Limited gun, and I was thinking that the M&P40 might be the one.



I've owned a few XD-40s and I wasn't too excited about them. I was amazed at how much better I shot my M&P9 than my XD-9s (right out of the box), so I started giving the M&P40 more thought. I was going to wait for the L or the Pro, but the rebate (and free mags) are tempting me to just buy one now... But I don't know of a place where I can shoot one prior to laying down the cash.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 07:30 AM   #8
 
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great forum by the way! i have the 40 and i've shot the 9 and the 9 is much easier and controlled. i have no regrets w/ the 40 ,but it is going to take some time to get used to if i want a nice tight shot group. i did notice that my trigger squeeze was more difficult than my buddies 9. his piece just felt a bit more smooth to squeeze.

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