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Old September 9th, 2009, 03:09 AM   #1
 
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My friend and I went to the range yesterday to shoot my new M&P 9 FS. We are both new to shooting and we were having lots of trouble getting the shots to hit close to center even at 5-7 yards. We figured out it was the way we were lining up our sights that was causing the problem.



If we lined up the 3 dots horizontally, the shot was pretty low.



If we lined up the top horizontal edge of the back sights with the top horizontal edge of the front sights, it went on target.



Can anyone point me to a place or show me what it looks like to have a proper sight picture on the M&P 9 FS. I would be nice to show me what I should see when looking down my sights.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 05:36 AM   #2
 
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Usually for close range 5-7 yards I have the 3 dots aligned and the target immediately behind the front sight and it gives me 1 to 2 inch groups or for less effort an A-zone. If it works better for you using the top edges aligned, that I think is also good so you don't need to be confused with the 3 dots (in fact I prefer no dots on the rear with my other gun). just make sure this alignment does not compensate an excessive trigger pull or wrist action anticipating recoil.



For double taps and drills on the move, just aligning the front sight in the middle of the slot on the rear and targeting center on the target is enough to give me accasional AAs and AC zones depending on the speed (though some prefer sight 6 o'clock on the target)



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Old September 9th, 2009, 06:34 AM   #3
 
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get XS big dot sights problem solved
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Old September 9th, 2009, 06:45 AM   #4
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Maybe this will help:



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Old September 9th, 2009, 08:27 AM   #5
 
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Originally Posted by tony413' post='223951' date='Sep 9 2009, 10:34 AM
get XS big dot sights problem solved


Certainly this would solve the problem is having two different groups, a precise one and an imprecise one. Unfortunately it does this by eliminating the precise one.





To the OP, those dots are there for quicker shots taken at shorter distances where accuracy is not at a premium. Use the outer edges of the sights for precision.



Specifically, you want "Equal light, Equal height". The top of the front horizontal with the top of the rear sight, with equal light one each side of the front sight. The bullet should impact AT (not above) the top center of the front sight at most distances that you'd use a pistol for.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:10 AM   #6
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When testing a pistol for accuracy using bullseye targets I use sight picture 1 (ref: Sight picture link post above). This allows a finer bead to be drawn than placing black sights in the middle of a black field.



Of the 6 M&P's I have shot in this fashion, all placed point of impact between 1/2 inch and 1 1/2 inch above point of aim at 15 yards. High velocity rounds typicaly hit lower than slower ones. Ammunition does make a difference. The rear sight can be adjusted to correct any windage error although all M&P's I have dealt with were very close to correct.



Relatively close shooting at silhouettes I drive the front sight to the upper COM and don't worry much about fine detail. If I see the front fibre the rear is in the right position for fast work. I use black rear sights.



Small targets and distance demand reverting to alignment of sight tops in parallel immediately below desired impact point.



Being new shooters, you may encounter the problem of hitting low left if a right hander or low right for left handers. That is normal and goes away with proper trigger control. It takes a bit of practice. There are many threads on this subject so do a little searching.



Welcome to the world of pistols.



Enjoy but stay sade.
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I think you said it in the first sentence NEW to shooting. It's just going to take some time and practice before you are proficient
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Old September 9th, 2009, 05:10 PM   #8
 
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Originally Posted by Troy123' post='223991' date='Sep 9 2009, 10:03 PM
I think you said it in the first sentence NEW to shooting. It's just going to take some time and practice before you are proficient
That's the truth..... I'm going on 40 years shooting now and I am still working on it...! Same goes for my golf game but at least when I am playing golf I can blame it on the "couple of beers"....!

Regards, Chris
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