Thumb Safety Sear Housing

BS68280 · August 10th, 2012, 06:10 AM

I just purchased an M&P Vtac 9mm and I would like to add the thumb safety since I have learned to really like it on my 9c.
Does anyone have a thump safety sear housing block they would be willing to sell or trade me? I want to trade my non thumb safety no MS no IL large plunger sear housing for your thumb safety no MS no IL large plunger sear housing. I can add some money to the trade even.

Please email me at bs68280@gmail.com

Hunter 512 · August 10th, 2012, 07:59 AM

PM sent

KRWeiss · August 10th, 2012, 03:27 PM

The VTAC comes with the universal block that is used for both. You only need the safety lever, spring, and cam to make it work.

BS68280 · August 11th, 2012, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRWeiss

The VTAC comes with the universal block that is used for both. You only need the safety lever, spring, and cam to make it work.

Do you know where I can get the spring and cam? Anyone have those parts I can buy?

BS68280 · August 11th, 2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRWeiss

The VTAC comes with the universal block that is used for both. You only need the safety lever, spring, and cam to make it work.

I keep getting mixed information about whether I can just add those parts or not. I can't find a video or anything on how to remove or install the spring and cam.

BS68280 · August 14th, 2012, 03:51 PM

Well that was simple. Someone sent me the safety, spring and cam. About three minutes later I was all set.

Collier · August 15th, 2012, 01:04 PM

Tagging along - I would love to add the same thing to my VTAC. I have the manual safety lever, but need the detent and spring. Anyone know where I can get these parts?

BS68280 · August 15th, 2012, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Collier

Tagging along - I would love to add the same thing to my VTAC. I have the manual safety lever, but need the detent and spring. Anyone know where I can get these parts?

I called S&W and told them I lost mine. They are sending me a new spring and cam. You can do the same or I will send you mine when they get here. You can email me.

Bs68280@gmail.com

Collier · August 16th, 2012, 11:26 AM

Email inbound. Thanks.

Tom W · October 26th, 2012, 06:17 AM

I too want to piggy back on this slightly dated thread.

I need two sets of the spring and plunger, one for a VTAC and one for a pro. Is asking S&W for these parts the best course of action?

Is there any issue regarding requesting these parts and not owning a thumb safety model? What I have read about this issue is that S&W is not interested in supporting this modification.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

KRWeiss · October 26th, 2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom W

I need two sets of the spring and plunger, one for a VTAC and one for a pro.

VTAC can accept the safety lever, because it was designed specifically for that option. I haven't heard of a Pro being capable of accepting one because they're more for competition.

Tom W · October 26th, 2012, 09:13 AM

I'm certain that I can install the parts if I had them on both the VTAC and the 9L. Hilton Yam posted a photo on his facebook page of both a 9L and a VTAC with thumb safeties.

The problem is obtaining the spring and the plunger/cam/detent plate--whatever it is called. S&W restricts these parts to factory customer service or M&P armorers. Since, my pistols were not factory TS models, then customer service is no help, and I don't know an M&P armorer to order these parts for me.

Anyone have a solution?

jasonuscg · October 26th, 2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom W

I'm certain that I can install the parts if I had them on both the VTAC and the 9L. Hilton Yam posted a photo on his facebook page of both a 9L and a VTAC with thumb safeties.

The problem is obtaining the spring and the plunger/cam/detent plate--whatever it is called. S&W restricts these parts to factory customer service or M&P armorers. Since, my pistols were not factory TS models, then customer service is no help, and I don't know an M&P armorer to order these parts for me.

Anyone have a solution?

The 9L does not have the thumb safety cutouts in the frame, if Yam had a TS 9L he either cut the frame or put the 9L slide assembly onto a frame with the TS already installed. So much for certainty...

KRWeiss · October 26th, 2012, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom W

I'm certain that I can install the parts if I had them on both the VTAC and the 9L.

Just a couple comments:

Your original question was about the Pro, not the 9L (those are 2 distinct models).
5" M&P with manual safety is not available from S&W, only a frame swap will get you there. It's also possible S&W might provide one for Hilton, but I doubt it.

P.S. Yours is not an original post, other have tried and failed to install a manual safety in a non-safety frame, and there are no gunsmiths offering this service.

Tom W · October 29th, 2012, 06:05 AM

Look, I'm sure my post deficit spells ignorance to you guys, but spare me. I have done my homework. And pardon the semantic confusion between 9L and 5" Pro. Both of my pistols have the frame cutouts. I am certain this swap can be done with the appropriate parts.

From the people that I have spoken to directly, including Hilton Yam and Jon Shadwick from Apex, as well everything that I have read, I only need the thumb safety, spring and plunger/cam/detent plate. The last two parts are restricted by S&W to factory installation, which they won't do on a non-TS pistol, or to a certified armorer.

The only solution that I have come up with, besides a sear housing block swap, is to contact an M&P armorer who can obtain these parts.

jasonuscg · October 29th, 2012, 10:38 AM

I've never seen a 5" M&P be it the 9L, Pro Series or 40L with the frame cutouts for the thumb safety.

Show me the serial number of a M&P 5" on the OEM documentation or sales receipt and the same serial number on the frame of that M&P that has TS cutouts and I'll believe it.

Don't

at me because I don't agree with unsubstantiated conjecture from a guy who claims to have talked to some guy.

Can't take joke, then grow plants for a hobby; they're non-confrontational...

Tom W · October 29th, 2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonuscg

I've never seen a 5" M&P be it the 9L, Pro Series or 40L with the frame cutouts for the thumb safety.

Show me the serial number of a M&P 5" on the OEM documentation or sales receipt and the same serial number on the frame of that M&P that has TS cutouts and I'll believe it.

Don't

at me because I don't agree with unsubstantiated conjecture from a guy who claims to have talked to some guy.

Can't take joke, then grow plants for a hobby; they're non-confrontational...

I am not interested in wasting my time proving anything to you. I am interested in a solution to my problem. You are not providing one. You have proven yourself consistently unhelpful.

luke2-2008 · October 29th, 2012, 11:47 AM

Seems if you could post a picture someone mite help you. That would be more appropriate than reporting the post.

Tom W · October 29th, 2012, 12:04 PM

I reported a consistently unhelpful and rude member of this forum. I have read some of his other posts, and it does not appear to be a localized behavior.

My inquiry is very straight forward. I am asking for a solution to the difficulty in obtaining the spring and plunger to convert my pistol to a thumb safety model.

I do not need to post a picture, and I do not need the response from the village troll that I received.

jasonuscg · October 29th, 2012, 12:58 PM

I suggest checking out the rules.

http://mp-pistol.com/announcements/3...rum-rules.html

Quote:

15. List all For Sale items in the 'For Sale' forum. You are Not to list items for sale in any other part of the site. Do Not use other forums to sell anything. This also pertains to items you seek that are 'Wanted To Buy'. Put these in the 'Wanted' forum. Also, Do Not post a link to 'For Sale' ads you may have on other boards such as GunBroker or GunsAmerica.

August 10th, 2012, 06:10 AM	#1
BS68280 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: SC Posts: 8	Thumb Safety Sear Housing I just purchased an M&P Vtac 9mm and I would like to add the thumb safety since I have learned to really like it on my 9c. Does anyone have a thump safety sear housing block they would be willing to sell or trade me? I want to trade my non thumb safety no MS no IL large plunger sear housing for your thumb safety no MS no IL large plunger sear housing. I can add some money to the trade even. Please email me at bs68280@gmail.com

October 29th, 2012, 06:05 AM	#15
Tom W Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NC Posts: 9	Look, I'm sure my post deficit spells ignorance to you guys, but spare me. I have done my homework. And pardon the semantic confusion between 9L and 5" Pro. Both of my pistols have the frame cutouts. I am certain this swap can be done with the appropriate parts. From the people that I have spoken to directly, including Hilton Yam and Jon Shadwick from Apex, as well everything that I have read, I only need the thumb safety, spring and plunger/cam/detent plate. The last two parts are restricted by S&W to factory installation, which they won't do on a non-TS pistol, or to a certified armorer. The only solution that I have come up with, besides a sear housing block swap, is to contact an M&P armorer who can obtain these parts. Last edited by luke2-2008; October 29th, 2012 at 02:32 PM.

October 29th, 2012, 12:04 PM	#19
Tom W Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NC Posts: 9	I reported a consistently unhelpful and rude member of this forum. I have read some of his other posts, and it does not appear to be a localized behavior. My inquiry is very straight forward. I am asking for a solution to the difficulty in obtaining the spring and plunger to convert my pistol to a thumb safety model. I do not need to post a picture, and I do not need the response from the village troll that I received. Last edited by luke2-2008; October 29th, 2012 at 02:33 PM.

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August 10th, 2012, 07:59 AM	#2
Hunter 512 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St.Louis, MO Posts: 118	PM sent

August 10th, 2012, 03:27 PM	#3
KRWeiss Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest Posts: 6,542	The VTAC comes with the universal block that is used for both. You only need the safety lever, spring, and cam to make it work.

August 14th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#6
BS68280 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: SC Posts: 8	Well that was simple. Someone sent me the safety, spring and cam. About three minutes later I was all set.

August 15th, 2012, 01:04 PM	#7
Collier Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Alabama Posts: 3	Tagging along - I would love to add the same thing to my VTAC. I have the manual safety lever, but need the detent and spring. Anyone know where I can get these parts?

August 16th, 2012, 11:26 AM	#9
Collier Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Alabama Posts: 3	Email inbound. Thanks.

October 26th, 2012, 06:17 AM	#10
Tom W Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NC Posts: 9	I too want to piggy back on this slightly dated thread. I need two sets of the spring and plunger, one for a VTAC and one for a pro. Is asking S&W for these parts the best course of action? Is there any issue regarding requesting these parts and not owning a thumb safety model? What I have read about this issue is that S&W is not interested in supporting this modification. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

October 26th, 2012, 09:13 AM	#12
Tom W Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NC Posts: 9	I'm certain that I can install the parts if I had them on both the VTAC and the 9L. Hilton Yam posted a photo on his facebook page of both a 9L and a VTAC with thumb safeties. The problem is obtaining the spring and the plunger/cam/detent plate--whatever it is called. S&W restricts these parts to factory customer service or M&P armorers. Since, my pistols were not factory TS models, then customer service is no help, and I don't know an M&P armorer to order these parts for me. Anyone have a solution?

October 29th, 2012, 10:38 AM	#16
jasonuscg Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Salish Sea Posts: 3,344	I've never seen a 5" M&P be it the 9L, Pro Series or 40L with the frame cutouts for the thumb safety. Show me the serial number of a M&P 5" on the OEM documentation or sales receipt and the same serial number on the frame of that M&P that has TS cutouts and I'll believe it. Don't at me because I don't agree with unsubstantiated conjecture from a guy who claims to have talked to some guy. Can't take joke, then grow plants for a hobby; they're non-confrontational...

October 29th, 2012, 11:47 AM	#18
luke2-2008 Site Staff Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somerset, Ky Posts: 2,606	Seems if you could post a picture someone mite help you. That would be more appropriate than reporting the post.