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Old October 15th, 2015, 08:13 PM   #16
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Do you remove the sights that often? Also, how about a pro series?

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Old October 16th, 2015, 02:05 AM   #17
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The trigger is the only thing that they could possible improve. In my opinion all other aspects of the M&P are perfect. Ergonomics, grip angle, height of bore axis, slide serrations, accuracy, magazine capacity of the various models, take-down, etc.

If a Gen 2 does indeed come about, i think it will include a smoother and lighter trigger, and perhaps a pair of stock night sights. Can't imagine any other "improvements"

How about tighter 25 yard groups? That would be a welcome addition.
I can shoot a 1911 into just over an inch (bench resting) at 25 yards, but my Pro with the best ammo found is 3-5 inches.

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Old October 16th, 2015, 07:36 AM   #18
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The only way I would buy a newer Gen 2 if they made it would be if S&W made one with where you did not have to remove the rear sight to access some of the slide internal parts .
This!!!
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Old October 17th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #19
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There are advantages to a modular system but if it has a trigger like the P250 I would never buy one. That is one crappy trigger.
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Old October 18th, 2015, 01:41 AM   #20
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There are advantages to a modular system but if it has a trigger like the P250 I would never buy one. That is one crappy trigger.
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I shot a Sig 320, which is also modular and it's not a bad stock trigger and not bad accuracy too.

The Walther PPQ M2, has one of the best factory triggers I've shot and is quite accurate at 25 yards too, averaging 3" groups off a bench. We only had one kind of ammo with us to test, 115 grain. I'm willing to bet a heavier bullet would have shot even tighter groups.

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Old October 18th, 2015, 08:55 AM   #21
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P250 has a great *DAO* trigger, but does not, and can not... compare to a striker trigger, naturally they are different mechanisms.

P320 I had was like a magic bullet launcher! Trigger was awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YkGI76gRM8

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Old October 18th, 2015, 04:31 PM   #22
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The Walther PPQ M2, has one of the best factory triggers I've shot and is quite accurate at 25 yards too, averaging 3" groups off a bench. We only had one kind of ammo with us to test, 115 grain. I'm willing to bet a heavier bullet would have shot even tighter groups.
Wouldn't buy a Walther if you paid me. P22 slides made out of zinc, non-existent customer service and a handgun that literally broke apart in a student's hand. Literally. Broke apart. The slide cracked in half.

How does a slide crack in half???


I contacted Walther and they said to contact Walther US. Walther US says it's not their gun and to contact the Canadian distributor. The Canadian distributor will SELL ME a new slide. I will take 1 to 2 YEARS to get in stock. One to two YEARS.

This was 2013. (Still have not seen a new slide.)

It's not the gun so much as the company. After all, what did I expect with a low-quality, low-rated handgun with a slide made of soft zinc instead of proper metal? It did give years of yeoman service in basic handgun training and was popular with beginners and non-shooters for its size and weight.

But honestly, if the slide cracked in half on the handgun I manufactured - especially in the hands of a person who writes firearms articles in national police magazines for a living - I would go out of my way to get it fixed or replaced.

These are NOT your dad's PPK! Every time I pull the trigger on a modern Walther, I will not be able to get that image of the slide cracking in two out of my mind.

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Old October 20th, 2015, 05:34 PM   #23
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Sign me up for a mid size in 9. That is the one thing that is missing.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #24
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I would like to see a new Gen 2 M&P with some CORE stippling on the frame.
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Wouldn't buy a Walther if you paid me. P22 slides made out of zinc, non-existent customer service and a handgun that literally broke apart in a student's hand. Literally. Broke apart. The slide cracked in half.

How does a slide crack in half???


I contacted Walther and they said to contact Walther US. Walther US says it's not their gun and to contact the Canadian distributor. The Canadian distributor will SELL ME a new slide. I will take 1 to 2 YEARS to get in stock. One to two YEARS.

This was 2013. (Still have not seen a new slide.)

It's not the gun so much as the company. After all, what did I expect with a low-quality, low-rated handgun with a slide made of soft zinc instead of proper metal? It did give years of yeoman service in basic handgun training and was popular with beginners and non-shooters for its size and weight.

But honestly, if the slide cracked in half on the handgun I manufactured - especially in the hands of a person who writes firearms articles in national police magazines for a living - I would go out of my way to get it fixed or replaced.

These are NOT your dad's PPK! Every time I pull the trigger on a modern Walther, I will not be able to get that image of the slide cracking in two out of my mind.
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Old October 24th, 2015, 08:35 PM   #26
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Gen II-Apex DCAEK or equal, a barrel or whatever fixes the intermittent accuracy complaint, and less slop between frame rails and slide so it doesn't pop over to the side so far when I'm dry firing.
Only a wish list, don't have any reason to think it was going to happen.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 08:34 AM   #27
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I just hope it does actually happen. I would love to see what new things Smith can come up with. I hope they don't do the same thing like Springfield and only change the way the frame looks and the Cuts on the slide. Springfield had a chance to lower the high bore axis on the mod 2 and it doesn't look like they did.

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Old October 26th, 2015, 07:38 AM   #28
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Gen2

If I could order my dream Gen2 Shield, it would have an optional 4 1/4" slide! For me, the shield grip fits my hand better than any other pistol out there.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #29
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Now that the FBI and the ARMY are looking for new pistols, there's room for improvement!
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Wouldn't buy a Walther if you paid me. P22 slides made out of zinc, non-existent customer service and a handgun that literally broke apart in a student's hand. Literally. Broke apart. The slide cracked in half.

How does a slide crack in half???


I contacted Walther and they said to contact Walther US. Walther US says it's not their gun and to contact the Canadian distributor. The Canadian distributor will SELL ME a new slide. I will take 1 to 2 YEARS to get in stock. One to two YEARS.

This was 2013. (Still have not seen a new slide.)

It's not the gun so much as the company. After all, what did I expect with a low-quality, low-rated handgun with a slide made of soft zinc instead of proper metal? It did give years of yeoman service in basic handgun training and was popular with beginners and non-shooters for its size and weight.

But honestly, if the slide cracked in half on the handgun I manufactured - especially in the hands of a person who writes firearms articles in national police magazines for a living - I would go out of my way to get it fixed or replaced.

These are NOT your dad's PPK! Every time I pull the trigger on a modern Walther, I will not be able to get that image of the slide cracking in two out of my mind.
That reminds me... I really need to go buy one of the PPQ 45's to go with my outstanding PPQ 9.

Thanks for the reminder!
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