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Old October 10th, 2016, 04:40 PM   #1
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M&P Shield 9mm pc

I have a new M&P 9 PC on the way. I have heard alot about Apex Trigger jobs and lasers. Will these upgrades improve it or am I just throwing money at something that won't show any improvement.
Look forward to any responses.
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Old October 10th, 2016, 07:33 PM   #2
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The Apex Tactical trigger kits will definitely improve the trigger pull and is definitely not a gimmick. I have 3 M&P's, a full size 40, a Pro Series 9, and a Shield in 9mm, I have Apex Tactical trigger kits in both the full size pistols but not in the Shield, the Shield is a close range defense gun not a target pistol and in that case I also want the slightly heavier trigger pull of the stock gun.

I don't have a laser but do run a red dot on my Pro Series, it helps these old eyes with the target.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 03:13 AM   #3
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Another vote for the Apex trigger. I would also change the sights (I have 51 yo eyes).

I shot a Defensive pistol match with an out of the box M&P FS. My performance (accuracy and speed) was much lower than my other FS with the better trigger and sights. It was much harder getting hits.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 05:21 AM   #4
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+3 on the Apex.

I have yet to use my laser/light combo for anything other than practice, but for that the laser is really good. Any funky trigger work is easily seen with the laser pointer. Plus it helps to train ones "muscle memory" so that with practice one doesn't even need to use the sights. I bring the gun up (dry firing, gun empty) and merely point it at a target. then I flash the laser to see if I'm on target. After a bit of practice you'll be amazed at how easy this is to do and the distance it can be done at.

If you want a laser for actually shooting in daylight it's not so great for that. The best of the bunch are the green lasers and even though they're far easier to see with our human eye sensitivity they aren't what I would call fast. Now in darker conditions they work better. Indoors, even with the light illuminating the scene they are easily picked up. Just don't use it as a crutch. One still needs to know the basics. A laser is a secondary aiming device IMO (for the young anyway). For an older person with old eyes it might be one of the best ways to sight because it puts the laser and the target on the same focal plane which is what is sometimes required. You didn't ask about them, but a micro red dot performs the same function for an older person, and in proper use it's almost laser like while projecting nothing. I would love to have a red dot on my 9c, but the S&W folks say that they'll never do it.

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Old October 11th, 2016, 07:13 AM   #5
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+4 for Apex! Will definitely improve it! Welcome to the Neighborhood, BTW!
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Old October 11th, 2016, 12:51 PM   #7
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A good gun smith can do wonders for this trigger with no Apex kit. I'm lucky and Have several very good ones near me.
One in particular has done 3 M&P's for me a shield 9 and 9C and a FS .40. I've since sold the .40 but all 3 are night and day as compared to how they were when I initially got them. In particular my 9C, it's an "H" frame but being in mass it had a 10 pound pull , long take up....just mush.
Now...very short takeup and 5 pounds. It's turned into my favorite gun to shoot.
and he charges about $20.00 less per gun than the Apex kit costs, but if you don't have a good gunsmith near you then the Apex kit will work wonders.
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A good gun smith can do wonders for this trigger with no Apex kit. I'm lucky and Have several very good ones near me.
One in particular has done 3 M&P's for me a shield 9 and 9C and a FS .40. I've since sold the .40 but all 3 are night and day as compared to how they were when I initially got them. In particular my 9C, it's an "H" frame but being in mass it had a 10 pound pull , long take up....just mush.
Now...very short takeup and 5 pounds. It's turned into my favorite gun to shoot.
and he charges about $20.00 less per gun than the Apex kit costs, but if you don't have a good gunsmith near you then the Apex kit will work wonders.
So check with him and see if he wants a plug. I don't mind sending my business to someone who knows what they're doing with the M&P.
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I would shoot it first to make sure the trigger needs work.
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So check with him and see if he wants a plug. I don't mind sending my business to someone who knows what they're doing with the M&P.
Brian, you can do the work yourself and save ALOT of money. I had a standard 9 shield, i rounded off the flat on top of the safety plunger by putting the plunger in a hand drill, used a file to round it off... then highly polished (far better than the apex plunger finish, and the apex still has a slight flat top to it too, which ALSO needs a polish job before installing it). Polish the trigger bar where it meets the plunger. Only polish lightly, try not to remove to much material.

While the plunger is out of the slide, polish the plunger hole just enough to remove some of the machining marks, make sure no burr`s are present.
Polish the trigger bar cam where it meets the sear, again, just enough to shine it up. Add a touch of height to the trigger bar cam...tiny screwdriver works to do that...this will shorten trigger take-up. Keep and re-use your OEM springs. Lightly polish the sear and stryker where they meet. Last but surely not least, add a film of grease (not oil..!) to all polished areas. Keep the stryker channel dry, do not oil it or grease it.

As for trigger over travel, you can install a apex trigger to improve that. Or you can mod the trigger housing to make over travel adjustable. That is much more intense to perform on your own, unless you know exactly how to do it. I`ve installed adjustable over travel set screws in MANY plastic guns, not an easy task to do if you dont work on alot of guns and know what your doing.

Tools needed:
Hand drill
Dremel tool
Small screwdriver
Flitz polish (any good brand of polish works)

Hardest part of the whole friggin job, removing the rear sight...big pain in the azz without a sight pusher
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Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll pull mine apart and do the polishing.

Removing the rear sight is what convinced me that I needed a sight pusher.

This where I got mine: Jennings Machine and Tool - Products
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Thanks for the info. Maybe I'll pull mine apart and do the polishing.

Removing the rear sight is what convinced me that I needed a sight pusher.

This where I got mine: Jennings Machine and Tool - Products
Be careful with sight pushers on the shield model pistols, thin slide rails crack real easy. The link you posted on the sight pusher you have, should not be a problem. The Maryland Gun Works sight pushers that attach the slide to the tool via the rails, those are the ones i worry most about. I`ve seen a few that wern`t properly used, basement bandit gunsmiths cracked the slides. And S&W will NOT give you a free one to replace it. Some advice, if you dont know already, use painters tape on your slide so that it wont get all marked up.

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Mine seems fine . It's not a target gun .
It's a defence gun .... well for me.
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