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Old January 6th, 2017, 06:52 PM   #1
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I just purchased M&P Shield 9mm. The counterman showed me a short cut to break it down. Remove the magazine,lock the slide back, rotate the locking pin, release the slide and then pull the trigger. I went to many youtube videos and saw what he was talking about, however it doesn't work for my 9mm. When I pull the trigger the slide doesn't move forward, I need a screw driver to push the yellow pin.
Am I missing something?

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Old January 6th, 2017, 08:57 PM   #2
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Welcome to our little corner of the web!

Are you missing something?

When they were designing the M&P they went to firearms trainers all over the country and asked them what features they wanted. Without exception, every single one asked for a takedown system that didn't require you to pull the trigger to remove the slide.

To take down a Glock, you must pull the trigger to remove the slide, too many people are careless, #1 they don't make sure the gun is unloaded and #2 they don't pay enough attention to where its pointed, hundreds of people have been shot and a few people even killed by that little detail. But...but...you say all you have to do is pay attention to basic safety, and that's true, but people continue to get shot and some even killed by Glock's 'feature'. Is there any question why every single one of the trainers asked for that feature?

That little sear deactivation lever is an important safety feature, if you use it, it is impossible to have a negligent discharge. Some naysayers will say 'I'm careful, I don't need that!' Every one of those guys that shot themselves or someone else, even the ones that killed a loved one would have said the same thing right up to the day it went BANG!
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Old January 6th, 2017, 10:02 PM   #3
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Its a whole lot easier to just use the yellow deactivation lever when you dont know what you`re doing. Reason i say this, if you cant break the shield down with the lever in the up position, then you shouldnt be looking for short cuts anyway. Especially if it can kill you, or someone near by, by hopeing for some quick little short cut. Safety should NEVER be a shortcut...PERIOD

But if you must....
The slide has to be in the "BREECH CLOSED HOME" position,
then pull the trigger, the slide will come right off the frame.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 11:45 PM   #4
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As already said, the lever is a safety feature. Please use it instead.

Does your pistol have a magazine disconnect?
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Old January 7th, 2017, 05:32 AM   #5
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Looks like you're from California. Does your gun have the magazine disconnect? If yes, then you indeed have to use the yellow sear lever.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 06:24 AM   #6
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Ah human nature bypass the safety feature " cuz I knows betters" .. how hard is it and how long does it take to flip the lever. I can properly break down my shield as fast or faster the right way as can be done using the "glock" technique.

Way put the added risk involved in doing so in to the mix when there is really no beneficial gain.

Use your "bond brain" and do it the proper way.




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Ah human nature bypass the safety feature " cuz I knows betters" .. how hard is it and how long does it take to flip the lever. I can properly break down my shield as fast or faster the right way as can be done using the "glock" technique.

Way put the added risk involved in doing so in to the mix when there is really no beneficial gain.

Use your "bond brain" and do it the proper way.




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I dunno Tex, seems we`re having "Break Down The Gun" racing lately.
If one cant push the yellow lever, one would think that person is kinda lazy.
I`ll stick with doing it the right way, it wont get me or some innocent bystander killed.
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Welcome to the group dcoffeen!

No, you aren't missing something. M&P's weren't designed to need a trigger pull to remove the slide. So if it comes off when you use the Yellow Sear Deactivation Lever but not when you use the "shortcut", all is good!

I'm all for shortcuts, except when it circumvents a safety feature.

I bet a friend of mine wishes his pistol would have had a safety feature like the M&P's do when he blew a hole in his hand.

G56 explains the reason for it very well.
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I dunno Tex, seems we`re having "Break Down The Gun" racing lately.

If one cant push the yellow lever, one would think that person is kinda lazy.

I`ll stick with doing it the right way, it wont get me or some innocent bystander killed.


Agreed I always use it just see no reason not too.



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Welcome from North Carolina.

The Yellow lever is a great safety feature, please do not try to bypass it
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Why do you need to use a screwdriver? That is in part what the frame tool is for.
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Why do you need to use a screwdriver? That is in part what the frame tool is for.
Because the Shield doesn't have a frame tool.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 12:03 PM   #13
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Safety lever is a stupid device for stupid people who cannot use regular gun safety measures and make sure the gun is cleared before removing the slide.
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Well, I have a very regimented field stripping procedure. And with the M&P's I always lock the slide back before rotating the takedown lever down. So with no mag, cleared chamber, slide locked back, I see no reasonable need to use the sear deactivation lever when I can simply ease the slide forward on an empty chamber and pull the trigger. If others choose to use the deactivation lever, good for you, but it seems a bit much to call someone a fool for taking a SAFE shortcut.
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Not picking on you, but if you ask Glock they will swear up and down that their method is safe, and if you do it the exact way you are supposed to, it is safe, but then those 'shortcuts' seem to creep in, next thing you know somebody gets hurt or worse.

The attached photo is from a guy who was going to clean his Glock..
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