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M2.0 trigger bar and sear changes

This is a discussion on M2.0 trigger bar and sear changes within the MP Talk forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; Originally Posted by steved13 Maybe I'm a fanboy, never really thought about it...but the comments about replacing are so self centered it's ridiculous. You guys ...


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Old February 5th, 2017, 10:46 PM   #16
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Maybe I'm a fanboy, never really thought about it...but the comments about replacing are so self centered it's ridiculous. You guys act like S&W owes you something, other than the pistol you already bought and own...that makes you even.

The only real question is; is the m2.0 a good pistol to buy...is it at least as good, or better than the original. It's not about you replacing yours, it's about the next shooter, buying their first, or their additional. I hope you at least know, the original is not made any more, the M2.o is the M&P choice now.

I don't understand why you act like it's supposed to be a replacement for yours, and even seem disappointed that your "old gun" isn't obsolete. I think S&W is pretty pleased with the M&P sales, and will be happy if that continues.

If you really need to crap all over something, maybe you could start your own thread, and leave the guy who just bought one's thread alone...rather than going off topic.

It seems, to me the new beefier frame, and less felt recoil, and newer texturing, is plenty, when the original was a nice gun for the money, with many happy customers.

Tul9033, thanks for the info, and enjoy your new gun...I've been very satisfied with my original versions, and with the improvements, I would think you'll be just as happy.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion steve, even if it goes off topic a little. I dont mind that posts go off topic most of the time, it opens your mind up to different views & opinions "around" the actual conversation. Eventually, the topic comes back around most of the time.

If S&W would just install the trigger components that they install in the M&P performance center guns, into their standard M&P guns, most people would be MUCH happier. I suppose its marketing strategy on their end. Sometimes, that can backfire on a company... especially when seasoned gun owners change out the trigger components in the standard M&P pistols. Newbie`s and/or first time pistol owners, likely wouldn`t know any better with what a GOOD trigger feels like... therefore, they would think a standard M&P trigger is the best feeling thing to them in the whole gun world. I have new shooters show up at my personal range with the standard M&P shield`s all the time, they`re all smiles thinking they got something great, then they shoot mine, the next thing that happens, their smile quickly turns to a frown, and then they ask me if i can make their shield trigger feel like mine. I think your smart enough to figure out the rest of the story.

As for the M2.0, great if your happy with it... but it wasnt impressive to me, at all.
There are much better pistols out there for the same money... and you dont have to fix the factory mistakes. Sorry if it makes you feel bad.
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Old February 5th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #17
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I'm not a fanboy by any means, but I do own 2 of the M2.0 pistols. My first was a 4.25 in 9mm and next was the 5" FDE in 40 S&W.

I'm not a huge fan of the Loaded Chamber Indicator and Safety on the 5" model, but I will say that the Safety is very easily manipulated and has good positive action.

I think S&W did great with the new models. I'm really glad they went with the 1:10 twist barrels this time around. It saves me from having to buy KKM barrels in the same twist. Also, the trigger is very positive on both. I've not done any work to either trigger yet, and I probably won't. The rough grip texture is also a positive feature, as well as, the Medium-Large grip panel. I have large, rough farmer's hands so when I grab ahold of a polymer pistol with very little contact area ... I feel like I need to grip tighter to secure it. Not with the new M&P! I'm a fan of the new model, and often find myself grabbing it before I do my Sigs.

I, for one, think the new model is great! Granted ... the 5" is geared more towards a competitive shooter's platform, but the 4.25" model would easily be considered a Service or Duty carry.

Those of you saying that your trigger sounds like gravel ... take the pistol out of the case and shoot 500 rounds through it. You won't even notice it after that if it's still there at all.
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Straight out of the box the version 2 I purchased ( .40 thumb safety 5 inch ) is a better pistol than the version 1 pistols I own. Only familiar with .40 models so may not apply to 9s or 45s. I also prefer a 5 inch with a thumb safety and have had to build my own until now which left me with an extra pistol to sell or pass on to a family member. I outfitted some women folk in the family with the leftover M&Ps from my builds.

BUT....once the trigger is fixed and some stippling to add some grip is done someone with a version 1 is not giving anything up to someone shooting a version 2. The noticeable things done to the 2nd version such as grip texture can be done to the first.

The auto forward is easily corrected with a little filing , stippling is easily a DIY project and an Apex trigger kit rounds things out on a version 1.

My 2.0 feels like it is sprung heavier but have not measured the spring rates. The guide rod set up is a little different in the 5 inch 2.0 also.
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Straight out of the box the version 2 I purchased ( .40 thumb safety 5 inch ) is a better pistol than the version 1 pistols I own. Only familiar with .40 models so may not apply to 9s or 45s. I also prefer a 5 inch with a thumb safety and have had to build my own until now which left me with an extra pistol to sell or pass on to a family member. I outfitted some women folk in the family with the leftover M&Ps from my builds.

BUT....once the trigger is fixed and some stippling to add some grip is done someone with a version 1 is not giving anything up to someone shooting a version 2. The noticeable things done to the 2nd version such as grip texture can be done to the first.

The auto forward is easily corrected with a little filing , stippling is easily a DIY project and an Apex trigger kit rounds things out on a version 1.

My 2.0 feels like it is sprung heavier but have not measured the spring rates. The guide rod set up is a little different in the 5 inch 2.0 also.
So, from what i`m understanding, anyone with a version 1, that they have already upgraded, is better off keeping it rather than buying/trading up to the version 2 for a gun that isn`t much different. If thats what your saying, i couldn`t agree more.

Whats your opinion on the M2.0 guide rod set-up... what are you seeing that makes it different form the first gen M&P.
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Longer guide rod in the Version 2. The version 2 is a better deal for me simply because I only have to buy one pistol to get a safety on a 5 inch pistol but I would not
sell one of my set up version 1 pistols to buy a version 2.


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