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Old March 13th, 2017, 09:02 AM   #1
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First time using a forum so this is all new to me. However I have a quick question about the shield 45. mine failed me by not firing hydro-shock personal defense rounds. I explained the situation to S&W and sent the gun back to be inspected and they found everything to be ok. The rounds were good because I fired each failed round through my Xds 45 with no trouble. Anyone else have any similar issues with the shield 45?
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First time using a forum so this is all new to me. However I have a quick question about the shield 45. mine failed me by not firing hydro-shock personal defense rounds. I explained the situation to S&W and sent the gun back to be inspected and they found everything to be ok. The rounds were good because I fired each failed round through my Xds 45 with no trouble. Anyone else have any similar issues with the shield 45?
Did you take the gun down and clean & lube it per the operators manual...???
I`m not trying to be a smart ass, BUT if you didnt clean & lube it before shooting it, that might be all you might need. You failed to mention what exactly it was doing.
By not firing, do you meen it didnt go bang...??? Did you try other ammo...??? These shield 45`s have been pretty decent guns, but it dosent meen there all 100% perfect either.
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Did you take the gun down and clean & lube it per the operators manual...???
I`m not trying to be a smart ass, BUT if you didnt clean & lube it before shooting it, that might be all you might need. You failed to mention what exactly it was doing.
By not firing, do you meen it didnt go bang...??? Did you try other ammo...??? These shield 45`s have been pretty decent guns, but it dosent meen there all 100% perfect either.
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I had shot several FMJ through it and cleaned and lubed it several times as well. The firing pin would actuate and the round would fail to go off. Sometimes you could see where the primer was impacted by the firing pin but failed to fire the round. I have several types of M&P fire arms that have been flawless using the same ammo across the board. I have decided it just did not like the Hydra-shocks so I switched to Hornady critical defense at this point and all seems well.
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Could be defective Ammo.
Did you try the ammo in another gun?
Dented primer so it was either light strikes (gun) or bad primers in ammo.
Mine shoots Hydra shock no problem.
In fact it has gone bang on EVERY round and brand put in it
Steel Alum and Brass target and defensive ammo.
Only thing I will NOT buy or shoot is WWB as it has caused malfunctions be it FTF or FTE or just no bang at all in several different semi auto guns several times somI pass it up.





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The rounds were good because I fired each failed round through my Xds 45 with no trouble. Anyone else have any similar issues with the shield 45?
Sure sounds gun related since you tried the failed rounds in another gun without issue.
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I had shot several FMJ through it and cleaned and lubed it several times as well. The firing pin would actuate and the round would fail to go off. Sometimes you could see where the primer was impacted by the firing pin but failed to fire the round. I have several types of M&P fire arms that have been flawless using the same ammo across the board. I have decided it just did not like the Hydra-shocks so I switched to Hornady critical defense at this point and all seems well.
The pistol primer`s that Federal use`s are pretty hard. The primer`s that Hornady use`s are a bit softer... reason why the hornady worked and the federal didnt. I`m on the fence with this issue... as i would have to go with thinking you might have a gun problem... the stryker bore may be a little tight, might have a rough surface not allowing the stryker to move smoothly... or it might have a weak stryker spring, or a combination of everything is upsetting the failure to fire. Many things in the mix that can cause light primer strikes. Hopefully you didnt put any oil in the stryker channel(???). The stryker channel needs to stay dry and clean as well as move freely in the stryker bore.

For now, i would shoot whatever works in the gun, let the gun free up a little more, then go back to the federal and see if it works. On days you can`t shoot, i would just dry fire the hell out of the gun. This method usually helps free up the stryker and helps polish the trigger components.
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Could be defective Ammo.
Did you try the ammo in another gun?
Dented primer so it was either light strikes (gun) or bad primers in ammo.
Mine shoots Hydra shock no problem.
In fact it has gone bang on EVERY round and brand put in it
Steel Alum and Brass target and defensive ammo.
Only thing I will NOT buy or shoot is WWB as it has caused malfunctions be it FTF or FTE or just no bang at all in several different semi auto guns several times somI pass it up.

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I`ve shot ALOT of WWB over the years, havent had any issues with it functioning, other than its not the most accurate bulk ammo i`ve ever shot, but it still goes bang in every 9mm i`ve owned.

One thing i DON`T like about WWB, you never know what batch will have crimped primers. I think they are mixing standard ammo with the NATO ammo and just boxing it up & shipping it to stores just to keep up with the demand before Trump got elected. Before i pay at the register, i ALWAYS open the box to make sure i didnt end up with a box of crimped primer`d ammo.

I save my brass, i dont want any crimped brass. And since seeing the WWB with more crimped primers lately, i wont buy anymore unless my favorite bulk ammo isn`t available. The bulk ammo that seems most consistent for me, is the Federal American Eagle right now. I use the FMJ 124gr, shoots VERY accurate in every 9mm i own. I have never had a single issue with FAE 124gr. Sells pretty cheap at welfare-mart stores too. About the same price as WWB.
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Uh...I believe that Federal primers are currently the softest primers on the market these days.

Winchesters are a close second, with CCI's being the hardest.

I know that all the revolver guys prefer the Federal primers...
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Uh...I believe that Federal primers are currently the softest primers on the market these days.

Winchesters are a close second, with CCI's being the hardest.

I know that all the revolver guys prefer the Federal primers...
One way to resolve it is, lets do a hardness test... do you gots a metal hardness tester ole`ricky coot...???

I gots me a tester... heheheheheeeeee, thats how i know.... hehehehe.
(i`m a machinist, metal testing tech where i work, i have access to alot of metal testing equipment YEEE hawww)

Here`s one that`ll fry yer bacon... have you reloaded with any winchester small pistol primers recently?
If you have, you`ll notice that they dont plate the primers anymore... now their primers are softer, which beats out federal as once being the softest primer.

Ok, i`ll give ya OLD COOT CUDO`s for one, your right, CCI has the hardest primer surface.
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One way to resolve it is, lets do a hardness test... do you gots a metal hardness tester ole`ricky coot...???

I gots me a tester... heheheheheeeeee, thats how i know.... hehehehe.
(i`m a machinist, metal testing tech where i work, i have access to alot of metal testing equipment YEEE hawww)

Here`s one that`ll fry yer bacon... have you reloaded with any winchester small pistol primers recently?
If you have, you`ll notice that they dont plate the primers anymore... now their primers are softer, which beats out federal as once being the softest primer.

Ok, i`ll give ya OLD COOT CUDO`s for one, your right, CCI has the hardest primer surface.
I've been using Winchester SPP for at least the last year, and some have been tarnished right out of the boxes (1000 count). They all go bang fine.

"Hardness tester;" is that where you bite down on 'em with your false teeth?
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