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Poll: Was your M&P reliable out of the box?

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100% reliable -no failures 1,054 90.24%
Some initial failures due to bad mags 12 1.03%
Some initial failures due to faulty workmanship 38 3.25%
Failures which could not be resolved 12 1.03%
Some initial failures due to tight fitting parts, etc. 39 3.34%
Failures which started occurring later, after the break-in period 13 1.11%
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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #1
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I've been reading about people's experiences with M&P's. I'm interested in getting one, but am still concerned about all the postings describing various failures.



Unfortunately, we usually only hear from the squeaky wheels. So I'd like to offer a general poll, trying to understand the overall picture.



Please rank the performance of your M&P.



Thanks.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:55 AM   #2
 
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I got my M&P 9 full size mid last year. It was perfect then right out of the box and it is still. I have many thousands of rounds through it, and have never had even one failure of any sort whatsoever. It has never had any rust, and the workmanship is great.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:03 AM   #3
 
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i am very happy with mine. people speak out when they have problems but rarely post just to say everything is fine. it's a very good pistol, if you like it and have the money then buy it. if you wait for everything to be perfect and never have any issues then you'll never buy anything. if it does have a problem or develops one down the line then you send it to smith & wesson and they fix it free with free postage. what more could anyone want from a pistol & company? buy one and go do this -->
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #4
 
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Well this is hard for me to answer. The first day I shot my MP9 I was with a friend of mine who is an even bigger noob than me. He loaded his own mag and managed to jam the gun with an unfired round. I cant be sure if it was due to tight mag springs, him not pushing the bullet all the way back, a bad round, limp wristing or any thing else. The same guy managed to jam a .22 S&W that everyone else was taking turns with too (the rest of us didnt jam the .22 at all). Although I did fire 60 rounds through the MP9 myself and didnt jam or misfire at all.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by David' post='116897' date='Mar 15 2008, 07:03 PM
i am very happy with mine. people speak out when they have problems but rarely post just to say everything is fine. it's a very good pistol, if you like it and have the money then buy it. if you wait for everything to be perfect and never have any issues then you'll never buy anything. if it does have a problem or develops one down the line then you send it to smith & wesson and they fix it free with free postage. what more could anyone want from a pistol & company? buy one and go do this -->


Ahhh... but you see I'm used to PERFECTION. My old used Glock has never hiccupped.

I bought a new S&W 4006 years ago, and it was never reliable, in spite of attempts by the factory to fix it.

So before I get into another S&W auto, I want more reassurance.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #6
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I've had two FTFeed in approx. 1800 rnds.....Could have been anything. More than likely a shooting error on my part or the gun still working out some kinks. Could have been an ammo issue as well....as they just barely caught on the under side of the feed ramp. I think that could happen with improperly seated..(in the mag) ammo....or ammo with a longer than normal overall length. All in all.....that aint much to lady about. I would say my MP has been pretty darn flawless. No unusual wear. Accurate....when I do my part.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #8
 
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Originally Posted by wheel' post='116903' date='Mar 15 2008, 02:07 PM
Ahhh... but you see I'm used to PERFECTION. My old used Glock has never hiccupped.

I bought a new S&W 4006 years ago, and it was never reliable, in spite of attempts by the factory to fix it.

So before I get into another S&W auto, I want more reassurance.


Uh oh...I've read a couple of articles in the past two days about Glocks having a problem with KB!s. You had better get rid of yours immediately before it happens to you since you want a perfect pistol. PM me your address and I'll send a postage paid shipping box so that you can send it to me.

Ok...enough with the sarcasm. The simple fact is that nothing is perfect and that includes guns. There are people who have had issues with their M&Ps and there are also people that have had problems with Glocks. Look up ToddG's posts about the torture tests that he ran his M&P9 through and your mind should be put at ease regarding the reliability of the gun. I've only put about 600 rounds through my 2 M&Ps so far, but have had no problems at all. I used a wide variety of ammo in my 40c during my first range session to challenge the gun and it has performed flawlessly. The numbers above are showing what I expected them to...far more guns without problems than there are with.

Also, I would not compare the M&P with any old S&W autos....they are a totally different animal. The other thing that S&W has going for it that apparently Glock does not is their customer service...they stand behind their product and only care about happy customers. From what I've read, Glock believes their guns to be perfect also, so whenever someone contacts them with a complaint, they blame it on the user, the ammo, etc rather than attempt to fix the problem.

Bottom line....I'd say go ahead and buy the M&P....you won't be disappointed.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 11:46 AM   #9
 
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Originally Posted by wheel' post='116903' date='Mar 15 2008, 08:07 PM
Ahhh... but you see I'm used to PERFECTION. My old used Glock has never hiccupped.

I bought a new S&W 4006 years ago, and it was never reliable, in spite of attempts by the factory to fix it.

So before I get into another S&W auto, I want more reassurance.




what if your glock decides to hiccup next week and blow up? was that glock a good gun? apply the same logic to the M&P and there is your answer.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 12:48 PM   #10
 
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I purchased my M&P45 in Nov of last yr and after 450 rds, I've had no probs to speak of. This pistol is so reliable and smooth. The stock trigger is so much better than that of a Glock's. A little longer pull but breaks so much crisper. Not as mushy. I'll find out what this pistol can handle in May when I go to Front Sight and run through 1200 rds. in four days! Can't wait.
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good to go from the get go
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Old March 15th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by wheel' post='116903' date='Mar 15 2008, 02:07 PM
Ahhh... but you see I'm used to PERFECTION. My old used Glock has never hiccupped.

I bought a new S&W 4006 years ago, and it was never reliable, in spite of attempts by the factory to fix it.

So before I get into another S&W auto, I want more reassurance.


So what I'm seeing is that you use a sample size of one to make decisions about the quality of a brand. In that case, I'm sure you'll find at least one person here who has never had a problem with his M&P, and that should set your mind at rest.



All you need to do is peruse this forum in a little depth. People here have been extremely forthcoming about the good and the bad of their M&Ps. Read, consider, decide.



I didn't even know how to answer your poll. I had a stoppage due to improper maintenance right out of the box; I had mag drops begin around the 13,000 round mark and again around the 26,000 round mark; I had a slide crack at around 22k. Does that make my gun reliable, a piece of crap, or??? It's still chugging along so I'm happy ...
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Old March 15th, 2008, 01:35 PM   #13
 
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Originally Posted by ToddG' post='116953' date='Mar 15 2008, 02:16 PM
I didn't even know how to answer your poll. I had a stoppage due to improper maintenance right out of the box; I had mag drops begin around the 13,000 round mark and again around the 26,000 round mark; I had a slide crack at around 22k. Does that make my gun reliable, a piece of crap, or??? It's still chugging along so I'm happy ...


A slide crack? where on the slide? do you have any pics? You shoot the 9mm right? I remember when the Glock 22's started to have slide cracks.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 01:51 PM   #14
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It's in here somewhere.
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Old March 15th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by ToddG' post='116953' date='Mar 15 2008, 09:16 PM
So what I'm seeing is that you use a sample size of one to make decisions about the quality of a brand. In that case, I'm sure you'll find at least one person here who has never had a problem with his M&P, and that should set your mind at rest.



All you need to do is peruse this forum in a little depth. People here have been extremely forthcoming about the good and the bad of their M&Ps. Read, consider, decide.



.......


I realize no manufacturer makes 100% perfect firearms, be it Glock, S&W, whoever. There are thousands of S&W buyers who received excellent samples. That includes me - I have several S&W's that were excellent right out of the box (and still are).



However, one cannot judge the quality of a manufacturer or a specific model, by "perusing the forums" as you suggest. The main reason is that by far, people who post are those who are having problems. In other words you never hear from the vast majority of those who have no problems.



Hence my attempt to coax BOTH groups to respond to the poll. I realize it's still not very meaningful, but it's got to be at least a little bit better than just reading posts from the squeaky wheels.
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