This is a discussion on Carry Gun Thumb Safty or no thumb saftey? within the Polls forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; I know it is not popular opinion, but I really like the thumb safety on my 9c...after all it is an opinion....
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|August 14th, 2009, 06:49 PM||#17|
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Clermont, FL
I agree I think it is purely a opinion... to some it get in the way... to others it a added safety feature the like to have.. I personally like to have the added safety and as "themachine" said i think it is a muscle memory that you just have to teach yourself. I will just teach myself to disengage it when the time comes as i am pulling it out of the holster. As far as disabling the safety on a 40c i asked a gun smith and they said it can be done... but that particular gunsmith did not recommend it because there have been cases that safety features have been disabled on handguns that have been used in personal defense situations and they have "sued" or gained lead way in the cases because the safeties on the gun had been modified. no weather that's true or accurate... i have no idea... but it would see plausible.
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|August 15th, 2009, 12:18 AM||#19|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Freedom P.A.
It is something that is personal. To me, something like a 1911 is easy to use the safety, but it needs more thought to be safe with it. You can overcome this with practice in both drawing at home & shooting drills at the range. Witch you should do anyway. My Witness has the ability to be cocked & locked & a DA trigger if it doesn't fire on a lite strike of the firing pin.
|August 15th, 2009, 07:58 AM||#20|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Thumb safety for ME. But I believe its a personal choice with no "right" answer.
Considering which pistols I have (BHP, Colt 1911 Govt 45 acp) the M&P with thumb safety is a natural progression.... for me.
I'm not trying to start an arguement but... for those that think you might forget to disengage the safety in a panic situation.... do you also think you would forget to disengage your seat belt if you drove your car into a lake?
I would say most SD situations are either 1) the BG gives you about 1 second before he kills you (surprised from behind) of which case youre screwed with or without a thumb safety. Or 2) you have 2 or more seconds of which, to me, is ample time to disengage the thumb safety (or seat belt) provided you have time to even draw your gun. Or 3) youre so scared that you dont even remember you have a (gun or seat bealt) of which case youre screwed again.
Ive had thumb safety's for about as long as Ive been wearing a seat belt. Its as natural as a seat belt to ME.
Again, its a personal choice and I DO see the arguement from both sides.
|August 16th, 2009, 07:18 AM||#21|
Join Date: May 2007
Chuck expressed the way I feel perfectly.
Before my M&Ps I was ccw'g my 1911 with safety on.
I paid more and had a harder time getting my first M&P (45 FS) WITH the safety. Said safety on an M&P is a gross disappointment and therefore neither of my other M&Ps have a safety on them.
I found that my M&P safety changes position if benched on a piece of carpet, much too easily. It does not make a good finger rest either.
As for "too many things to think about" comments . . . you act the way you train, so if you train properly with or without a safety, that's how you will act in a crisis situation. Therefore a safety should not be a problem. I took 3 tactical handgun courses (each 6-800 rds) with my 1911, putting safety on each time it was holstered. Never once did I "forget" to put the safety off as I drew to fire. It's a non-issue if you train properly.
I did not vote as I would vote "yes" for a 1911 and "no" for the M&P. Other guns would vary as well, but I've not found any other gun where the safety position changes when I bench the gun, so I'm particularly disappointed in the design of the M&P safety.
|August 24th, 2009, 11:11 PM||#23|
Join Date: Mar 2008
I voted No Way. Of course if I am carrying a 1911 I am cocked and locked with the thumb safety on. Anymore I am almost always carrying my M&P40c, 9c, or a Glock 26 and I don't want or need a thumb safety on any of those.
|August 25th, 2009, 06:07 AM||#25|
Join Date: Feb 2009
No way for me. I like to keep it simple. If I have to draw down in a situation, I don't want anything that might slow me down even a fraction of a second. But its all personnal preference.
|August 25th, 2009, 06:50 AM||#26|
Join Date: Jul 2009
I like both options. I would prefer a thumb safety for concealed carry and no safety does not bug me. I carry an XD 45 with thumb safety and love it. I just bought an M&P 45 and like it better than my XD. I will be getting rid of the XD and looking for an M&P with a thumb safety. If I can not get one at a reasonable price. I will settle for one without. I already contacted Smith and Wesson and found out that they will not convert the pistol to a thumb safety once it has left the factory. But a thumb safety is not hard to train yourself to learn and use. And becomes a normal motor response when you start to use it.
|December 10th, 2009, 10:20 AM||#27|
Join Date: Dec 2009
If you can remember 1 of these 3 things theirs no need for a safty. 1 always keep your firearm pointed in safe direction. 2 always keep finger out of trigger guard and off trigger untill you are ready to shoot . 3 never point a firearm at anything you cannot afford to fix or replace. Those saftys are only a mechanical device to make non-gun owners and handlers feel warm and fuzzy inside. Saftys are like insurance, it does not always work. A safty can slow you down, and if forgotten about and left on in any situiation can and will get you killed.
Just my 2 cents.
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