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Carry Gun Thumb Safty or no thumb saftey?

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View Poll Results: Thumb Saftey
Yes Absolutely!! 83 19.39%
No Way!! 201 46.96%
Either way is fine with you.... 144 33.64%
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Old August 12th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #1
 
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If you feel strongly about it.. id like to know why...



Thanks



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Old August 12th, 2009, 06:57 PM   #2
 
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Originally Posted by nathanbrown03' post='220665' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:18 AM
If you feel strongly about it.. id like to know why...



Thanks



~Nathan




Hey There-



Saw your other posting... Congrats on the new pick up! I carry an M&P9c w/ CT and love it.



Anyways, onto your poll. I prefer NO safety, only because the last thing I want to think about in a defense situation is flipping a safety on my sidearm when drawing it. Not that you can't condition yourself to do this through training exercises, but removing the safety completly is the only way to ensure your gun will fire when you pull the trigger. I don't have safety's on any of my handguns, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I seem to remember my instructor saying something like larger thump safetys have the potention to catch on some holsters and clothing (never heard of this, but maybe?) I also have a Crimson Trace on mine so I can keep both eyes on the target, or shoot from cover with some idea of where I was aiming if the situation called for it.



Either way, Im interested to hear what people's thoughts on the subject are.



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Old August 12th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #3
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no thumb safty it gets in the way.http://mp-pistol.com/boards/style_em.../thumbdown.gif
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Old August 12th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #4
 
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M&P 9c, no safety and I prefer it that way.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #5
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no thumb safty it gets in the way.http://mp-pistol.com/boards/style_em.../thumbdown.gif
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Old August 12th, 2009, 08:59 PM   #6
 
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No Safety. Time will be mighty short and a one hell of a to do list that will need to be done either way very fast.



My idea of safety is situational awareness and chamber empty. ONCE IN A WHILE.... I will rack before CHL (CCW) into a hot area where condition orange is necessary.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 12:31 AM   #7
 
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I prefer no manual safeties.



They do have advantages though.



I wouldnt mix the two...If i bought something with a manual safety at this point it would be part of a total shift in my carry guns.All would have manual safeties,or none would,if they may be used for SD/HD.



The only exception might be if it was an adequately dissimilar platform(possibly a pocket bug).



I would definately go to a manual safety before carrying with an empty chamber.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #8
 
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I have both and each one has it's own time and place.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 01:06 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Willard of Oz' post='220679' date='Aug 12 2009, 11:16 PM
M&P 9c, no safety and I prefer it that way.


Same here. I don't care for thumb safeties on striker fired pistols. Even worse is the design of the thumb safety on the M&P in particular. The thing adds way to much bulk to the pistol IMO.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 01:58 PM   #10
 
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Same here. I don't care for thumb safeties on striker fired pistols. Even worse is the design of the thumb safety on the M&P in particular. The thing adds way to much bulk to the pistol IMO.




How would one remove the thumb safety off of a 40 cal M&P??
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Old August 13th, 2009, 02:46 PM   #11
 
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Depends on what type of gun we are talking. Since I assume we're looking at the M&P pistol in particular I said "NO WAY!" With the long DAO trigger pull I don't feel the safety adds much in the way of, well...safety. It is just one more thing to get in the way of taking care of the task at hand. A gun's "job" is to fire when I pull the trigger. It is my "job" to make sure I only pull the trigger when I want the gun to do its job. Seems pretty simple to me.



If safety is truly your goal then unload the gun, put the mag in a seperate room of the house, put a trigger lock on it, engage the external safety, and put both the ammo and pistol in seperate locked containers. If speed and effectiveness is your goal then I suggest removing all of those precautions...fractions of a second count and I don't want to have to remember to take the gun off safe when I just woke up at 3:00am to someone barging through my bedroom door.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 02:52 PM   #12
 
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A manual Safety on an S&W* DAO Semi-Auto

is like a Clutch Pedal on an Automatic Transmission



My view is the real utility of a Safety

is so a pistol wont discharge "accidently"



The DAO Mechanism of the M&P

takes care of that issue



It wont go Bang, unless the trigger is pulled



Therefore I don't need a safety to slow down my response time



just my $.02



* I can't comment on non-S&W's
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Old August 13th, 2009, 03:31 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by davidsdad' post='220836' date='Aug 13 2009, 05:58 PM
How would one remove the thumb safety off of a 40 cal M&P??


I remember reading on one of my forums someone asking this question, but I can't find it. I don't think anyone had an answer...



Sorry
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Old August 13th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #14
 
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Well I have the thumb safety on my .40 FS. At first I ordered the gun without the thumb safety but then changed my mind. I've shot and handled many handguns before and the one's I am most familiar with had thumb safeties. This being my first personal handgun I went with what I was familiar and comfortable with. I personally like the extra thumb safety when I have the gun loaded and chambered. I instinctively disengage the safety whenever I grab the weapon to shoot and since I keep the weapon in my night stand most of the time, reaching in at night I don't feel so bad about accidentally grabbing the trigger in my suddenly sleep awakened mind. But when I grab the gun and acquire a target with intent, my thumb just instinctively brushes the safety down. It has always been the first thing I do when shooting handguns I have shot and when I am done with the magazine rounds I put the gun back on safe. This is just the way I have always done it. No right or wrong way but just my functions of being safe when handling a weapon and what I have always been accustomed to.



To each their own. On my next M&P purchase will I order with a thumb safety? Probably not, but I like having it. Also, as mentioned, the Crimson Trace grips are not available for those with the thumb safety and I have had an issue or two on some holsters that I am interested in not being made just yet for these models with the thumb safety. My .02
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Old August 14th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #15
 
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No way on the M&P.



A proper thumb/frame safety like on a M1911 is shaped so you can keep your thumb on top of it at all times, safed or not. The M&P design doesn't lend itself to this.



Why all the time? (1) Ensure it stays off. I've seen recoil and hand slip safe pistols, and (2) fast off-safe if you're in a low-but-high-enough-to have-your-hand-on-the-pistol threat environment.



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