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This is a discussion on Do You Open Carry? within the Polls forums, part of the Smith & Wesson MP Forum category; There are defiantly is a time and a place for each. The gf hates when I don't carry actually which is rare. That being said ...


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View Poll Results: OPEN CARRY
Yes 12 11.54%
Sometimes 44 42.31%
Never 47 45.19%
I think Open Carry should be banned 1 0.96%
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Old July 4th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #16
 
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There are defiantly is a time and a place for each. The gf hates when I don't carry actually which is rare.

That being said when I oc, like you said, my impression on the public persona is very important. I do go out of my way to be nice. People ghost wow, he's a nice guy and carrys maybe the stereotype is wrong.

Also 8 times out of 10, the sheeple don't even notice when you carry.
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i say its up to the persons preference to oc or ccw. i say theres a few pros and cons for both.. i say if u open carry and u dont have a ccw, u should try to get one. just think theres benefits for both ways of carrying. i ccw most of the time. i would oc depending on what im doing. like outdoors stuff. but think about this situation..u go with ur wife or gf to a fancy restaurant in nice cloths with a pistol slapped to ur side. i would think it would just draw to much attention to u. in those situations ccw has the advantage.
I think that all of us, regardless of our views, would probably not open carry at a "Black Tie" affair, unless our name is Larry the Cable Guy, or one of us was the basis for a Jeff Foxworthy "you might be a redneck if you open carried in your tuxedo at your daughter's wedding", joke.



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Open carried for a few hours this evening. Took a walk, went to the local Convienience store, and went to local fireworks. No issues! Even got up and confronted some idiot just before the Fireworks started who was drunk as hell and was swearing at the top of his lungs with lots of kids around. At one point was right behind me screaming. I have a 7 year old girl and didn't like what was spewing out of his mouth to his girlfriend. Got up, told him he needed to shut his mouth with all the kids around, and that it was probably about time for him to go home! He just walked away! Do I think he noticed my M&P 45 on my side? Doubt it, was to drunk to notice I'm sure. Just thought I would share that
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Well, good enough for an idea. 50% open carry at least sometimes. 50% Never. A bunch of really good responses as to why. Could debate them forever, but I didn't really want this thread to be a debate, and it did not, which was great. Good reasons given for both sides of the issue. Guess we could close this poll, as I see a trend already, and don't think it would change much. If it did, I would expect it to RTM (return to mean) over a given period of time and more vote samples were obtained.



Thanks to all that who gave their opinions as to why or why not, they open carry. Appreciate it, and the civility maintained given the opposing reasons.



Now, does anyone know how to close a poll?



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For everything, there is a time and a place.



In FL, you can open carry while hunting, fishing, etc. I fish around my condo complex, on the dock of the yacht club here... No real reason to open carry!!! I live and work in a very low-crime area, in the beach cities of St Petersburg, FL. If I lived and worked on a ranch in Texas, it would be a whole different story. If I were hiking in the back-country, where large 4-legged, or man-sized 2-legged predators might frequent, I'd open carry.



If you're getting out of your F-150 in rural Texas, to grab some feed from the local farm store, most of the people inside would be completely comfortable seeing a gun on your hip. If you live in suburbia, and you're picking the kids up from school.... no dice.



Between my home and a shooting match, dressed in black cargos, and a t-shirt, with a ball cap on, I look more like a cop than most cops. I think the average civilian who saw ME carrying openly, would simply assume I was a LEO, even in my condo complex. But most guys with "longer" hair than my shaved head, might get an uneasy second look.



If Florida goes to unrestricted open carry, I'd consider it, and when appropriate, I'd do it... but I wouldn't carry around downtown St Pete Beach in broad daylight. It would be more hassle than advantage.



I disagree with the comment about open carry making you a target. MOST criminals, like 99%, are lazy and looking for easy targets of opportunity. Granted, I'm 6'4" and 240lbs with single digit body-fat... With or without a gun on my hip, I'm no easy score. But if I were a guy closing up my liqueur store at midnight, in a rougher part of town... I'd carry a 12 gauge AND a handgun, and let everyone know I had it!



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I would open carry when appropriate if it was a option in my state
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For everything, there is a time and a place.





If you're getting out of your F-150 in rural Texas, to grab some feed from the local farm store, most of the people inside would be completely comfortable seeing a gun on your hip. If you live in suburbia, and you're picking the kids up from school.... no dice.





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Your view of Texas has evidently been influenced by western movies Jeff. Open carry is not allowed in Texas. Go west a bit further however and getting out of the F150 in Phoenix with gun on hip wouldn't even generate a small ripple on the pond.
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You just have to live with it forever jb.



You have once more started something you can't finish.







I don't think anyone mentioned it gets to hot in some places to wear cover garments so we just don't in Arizona. I love constitutional Carry.
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NC allows open carry, but I very rarely see it. My departments SOP states that when I carry off duty the weapon shall be warn concealed. I think the main cause for most people here to not open carry is a poorly written law: Going Armed to the terror of the Public, which basically means if someone sees your gun and you do aomething that person "perceives" as threatening you could be charged. In this area it is a law that is very very rarely charged but it does exist. Some local towns overly enforce it.
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You have once more started something you can't finish.







I don't think anyone mentioned it gets to hot in some places to wear cover garments so we just don't in Arizona. I love constitutional Carry.
Oh, I don't mind if it goes on forever. But the trend seems to be about the same. About 50/50, with some folks carrying open, either regualarly, or sometimes.



Some folks don't have a choice, depending on what their state laws are.



And about half choose not to carry open, for various reasons, even when they have the option.



Actually, I started this over a news story that was in the news for a couple of day's, when a man in an open carry state, got jacked up badly by the Cops, who didn't even know their own state laws for OC, when it was totally legal in his state. The guy was trying to rally everyone in the state who supported OC, to come to an organized event supporting their right to open carry. I don't know if it, the event, happened or not, it just kind of dropped off of the news' radar. But even though the cops were facing a serious lawsuit, they still warned any particpants that they may be subjected to (unspecified) but "unwelcome" treatment, if they OC'd in an OC legal state. Go figure.



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It is ignorant to assume people will look at you as a deterant, you are not a police officer, you are a civilian with a pistol. Regardless of how much training you have, it is much more smart to conceal your pistol then to open carry IMO.


"Open Carry Deters Armed Robbery in Kennesaw"



I live in a state (Utah) where, for the most part, no one cares if you open carry. Most people assume that only the good guys would openly carry their firearm. People that are up to no good don't like to tip people off to that fact. I like to open carry when it is appropriate because it is comfortable and it is my right to do so. In fact, I always make it a point to open carry whenever I go to the school to vote.



Do people get freaked out when they see a LEO that is open carrying a firearm? I grew up with several [s]thugs[/s] guys that are now police officers and I will say that the general public is infinitely safer with me carrying a firearm than those guys.



There are lots of things that I find scarier than a citizen open carrying. Take fat women in tank tops for example. I don't like seeing it, but I am not going to call the police and report it every time I see one.
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Since my OP in this thread I started to open carry from time to time. I haven't really done it during the day or around people really but I have been when I go out for walks at night. I was recently walking through a neighborhood with my girlfriend and ending up running into an older couple and we started to chit chat. Granted it was at night but I'm pretty sure the couple didn't notice the gun on my hip, even with the two little yellow dots glowing on my rear sight... I still haven't just walked in a store while open carrying or walked in the downtown area near where I live but I have at least got my feet a little wet.
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It is ignorant to assume people will look at you as a deterant, you are not a police officer, you are a civilian with a pistol. Regardless of how much training you have, it is much more smart to conceal your pistol then to open carry IMO.


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The above seems to me like an entirely speculative statement. Do you have any data or even anecdotes to back it up? I don't think I've ever heard of a bad guy attacking an openly armed citizen. At that point the bad guy has gone from whatever else he had planned (theft? robbery?) to premeditated murder. That's a pretty big step. I just can't imagine a scenario where a bad guy thinks to himself "hey, there's a guy with a gun, let's jack him up instead of the at old lady".



Regarding the poll, I voted 'sometimes'. I don't really open carry to make a statement or anything, I just oftentimes don't really care if someone sees my pistol. When I bicycle or hike with the dogs, i carry owb (pancake holster) because it's more comfortable and that holster has a thumb-break so it's more secure for activities. On the way to or from, I'm happy to run my errands without worrying about it. I often carry the same holster mostly concealed, but if I bend over, or the wind blows, or someone is paying close attention, it's not that hard to see I'm armed. Doesn't seem to be noteworthy in idaho.



I would probably open-carry more except I usually drink beer when I go out, and it seems like a bad idea to openly drink while openly carrying.
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I'll add a caveat. I open carry in California, but only outside of city limits. In the woods, fishing, hiking...that sort of thing. In town, I wouldnt make it 5 feet before the SWAT team gets called.
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