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View Poll Results: Do you think this country would be a far better place if we were lead by GOD fearing people?
Yes 24 66.67%
No 10 27.78%
I don't care 2 5.56%
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Old May 10th, 2012, 04:52 AM   #1
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Just pondering this.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:19 AM   #2
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No but moral non greedy people who are in it for the country and not their own bank accounts would heap.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 07:27 AM   #3
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Do you consider "Fear" to be necessary?
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Old May 10th, 2012, 08:35 AM   #4
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No. But whith what people do theses days if they knew on judgement day they would stand befor the almighty and have to answer for what they have done they would have fear of what they do. Sorry for the improper wording.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #5
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Yes, without moral absolutes and boundaries society will degrade, see the history of man.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #6
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No, we don't need the Christian god. We need ethics, spirituality, honor, and compassion. These things don't rely on any organized religion.
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Old May 10th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #7
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Luke, yes. But remember it can't be "forced" on other's. God is not a "galactic bully". He gave us the freedom to believe, or not. Free will. The Bible pretty much makes this clear. If you believe in the Christian bible, and Hebrew tradition, even the angels were given free will, as a third of them sided with Satan, who at one time was the #1 angel, and challenged God for his position. The fact that 1/3 of the angels sided with Satan, and were cast out with him would indicate free will to choose.



Second, remember, no matter if Obama took it upon himself to speak for all Americans, when he proudly pronounced that "America is no longer a Christian Nation", that the founding fathers, some of whom were atheists, or agnostics, founded the nation on Christian principles. But, and although this has been so perverted by liberals, they were wise enough to insist we have the freedom to worship as we will, or not to, or anything between.



This, if you read the writings of some of the founding fathers, was not for some wild eyed liberal to file a law suit, like in kY, in a small town that's had the 10 commandments in their small city building lot for years, and a WWII era cross for those veterans (funny the suit was filed by a passer thru from N.J.) Nobody in the town objected, but a jerk passing through from another state did, and the town couldn't afford the lawsuit so they dismantled it. It (freedom of religion) was so that the State couldn't establish a religion, as they had seen in England. Smart move but it has been perverted to death, much like the rest of the constitution, and most people actually believe it is a means to ban worship, prayer, or any other form of Christianity.



Note I said Christianity. It's not politically correct to mess with the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu's, etc..etc..



But things are what they are. If you're a believer, then you must know that these things have already been foretold by the New Testament, and they have to play out, as written within.



Just a thought.



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Old May 10th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #8
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This, if you read the writings of some of the founding fathers, was not for some wild eyed liberal to file a law suit, like in kY, in a small town that's had the 10 commandments in their small city building lot for years, and a WWII era cross for those veterans (funny the suit was filed by a passer thru from N.J.) Nobody in the town objected, but a jerk passing through from another state did, and the town couldn't afford the lawsuit so they dismantled it. It (freedom of religion) was so that the State couldn't establish a religion, as they had seen in England.
This kind of stupid stuff makes my blood boil but it also makes me think. Until the law is changed back to mean what was intended why can't a city, town, county or state donate the property in dispute to an organization thereby making it a private piece of property and no longer under the separation clause? I know it can't be this easy but that's what happens when I think.
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This kind of stupid stuff makes my blood boil but it also makes me think. Until the law is changed back to mean what was intended why can't a city, town, county or state donate the property in dispute to an organization thereby making it a private piece of property and no longer under the separation clause? I know it can't be this easy but that's what happens when I think.


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Can't imagine what goes through these peoples minds. Anyway, they moved the stone with the 10 commandments, and the cross, to the local V.F.W. It's not like if you see a cross, or for that matter the Star of David, or a Cresent and a star, that you're having religion pushed down your throat, any more than a billboard advertising brussel sprouts is ever going to convince me that I'd like to eat them.



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I really don't waste time on theology. It's of no use to me.
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Just pondering this.




Depends on how far they would push it. Wouldn't want to go back to the "witch hunt" era of our past.
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This country has been founded on Christian Beliefs, and it has been a part of it from day one. In God We Trust is a simple phrase, it is our moral and spiritual guidance to lead us thru our lives. Religious Freedom is another great thing about this country, we are free to practice it as we please, and we are not to be persecuted because we do.



Every tribe of man has a god, whether it be the Lord Jesus, Budda, Allah, or a Buffalo. Since the beginning of man, history has shown there is a gravitation to some greater spiritual being. Right or wrong, it is not for me to judge someone else regarding their belief. Nor should it be anyone else's position. It is a major part of the true meaning of Freedom that our Founding Father's had in mind when they formed this great country.



If you look at the word GOD as meaning something that all people have faith in and not a specific religious deity, then why would it not be acceptable?
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No but moral non greedy people who are in it for the country and not their own bank accounts would heap.




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No, we don't need the Christian god. We need ethics, spirituality, honor, and compassion. These things don't rely on any organized religion.


Exactly, we need less religion and more decency. Religion can sometimes do good things for a single man. Religion does bad things for a society. Somewhere between one man and a society, some power-hungry maniac grabs the reins and turns some good ideas about how to take care of each other into a program for how to hurt each other.





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Corndog,

Can't imagine what goes through these peoples minds. Anyway, they moved the stone with the 10 commandments, and the cross, to the local V.F.W. It's not like if you see a cross, or for that matter the Star of David, or a Cresent and a star, that you're having religion pushed down your throat, any more than a billboard advertising brussel sprouts is ever going to convince me that I'd like to eat them.
You're missing the point. Christian privilege and Christian entitlement in this country are what make those displays problematic. The displays serve as constant reminder that if you aren't Christian, you aren't really welcome. That if you aren't Christian, you aren't really one of us. That if you aren't Christian, you're not quite worthy of the same care as someone who is. So having those symbols in our governmental facilities is shoving the message that you're either Christian or the government just might not treat you fairly. When we as a society advance to a point where it would be impossible for a president to say he wasn't sure if atheists are Americans, where it's impossible for people to believe the deluded fantasy that a sitting president is not actually of the religion he professes, where it's inconceivable that the nation's Pledge would require reference to god, once there's no pressure to teach religious fairy tales in science classes then, and only then, are displays of the commandments, of crosses, of stars of David, not a form of religious oppression because they will no longer be reminders of exclusion and will have instead become reminders of the strength of this nation and it's ability to value people as humans.
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Leave my choice or lack there of concerning my beliefs alone. Go judge yourself first. Liberals are nothing about liberty, do not tell others what you think they should do and call it liberty. GTFO.

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Leave my choice or lack there of concerning my beliefs alone. Go judge yourself first. Liberals are nothing about liberty, do not tell others what you think they should do and call it liberty. GTFO.

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I find it interesting that because you disagree with my views, you think I'm not worthy of consideration. You do, of course, realize that you're implicitly doing exactly of what you accuse liberals, yes?
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