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Old December 24th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #16
 
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As you can see every ones idea of better is different. Most any good quality shot gun can be made into a good defencive gun. The Remington or Mossberg are both good and some of the others are good as well. each has strong points over the other (location of safety, slide release, after market options). Pick one that fits your budget and needs/wants and spend most of your money on practice ammo and maybe some training. --- Good luck and Merry Christmas -Bill
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Old December 25th, 2008, 10:26 AM   #17
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gov held trials, Remmy never submitted a sample, hence didn't get the contract. The reasoning is that they didn't want to sacrifice a lot of market with high profit margins, for a small market with little or no profit margins.



I understand the marketing, but it does give a better rep to the contract holder.



I had a mossy 500, and currently have an 870. I've had other 870's and some 1100's. For HD I'll never use a semi auto shotgun (but I'll use a semi handgun). I'll take an 870 over the 500 anyday, and from what I understand is that the 500to the 590 is just a couple of beefed up parts.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 04:29 AM   #18
 
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I know that it is pricey but I love my Benelli M4. It is a bit on the heavy side, but I also watched G&A TV try to overload and blow one up unsuccessfully.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 04:46 AM   #19
 
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I am with the Mossberg crowd on a couple of things.



First, I prefer the position of the bolt release and safety on the Mossberg over those on my 870.

Secondly, the Mossberg has dual extractors.

Thirdly, the shell lifter on the Mossberg is superior, IMO, as it does not need to be pushed out of the way to load additional shells with the bolt closed.



And I agree that if I had it to do over again I would buy the regular 590 instead of the M590A1 due to the weigh difference. Actually, what I would really prefer would be a regular 590 in 18.5 instead of 20.



That is it for pumps, but if I really was doing everything all over again I would get the Mossberg 930SPX tactical aotoloader. Similar to a FN SLP, but without the chokes and at a fraction of the price. Sweet gun!



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Old January 1st, 2009, 05:30 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by Jester' post='177547' date='Dec 25 2008, 07:26 PM
gov held trials, Remmy never submitted a sample, hence didn't get the contract. The reasoning is that they didn't want to sacrifice a lot of market with high profit margins, for a small market with little or no profit margins.




You got to my answer first....



And yes... I'm a former USAF Acquisition Officer... The Militery does not buy from the lowest bidder. They get three bidders. One with a low price on crap, one with a high price on good stuff. THEN, they strong-arm the good manufacturer into dropping quality and price on the expensive version until there's no profit OR quality for the supplier. THEN the Senator from the state whos company LOST the contract bitches and threatens to cancel the F22 over a "shotgun". THEN the Military goes back and REBIDS the contract, telling the manufacturers EXACTLY what it will pay for WHAT product, and both manufacturers come back with the same answer... (suprise, suprise) The Military lets two IDENTICAL contracts to two manufacturers (just in case one goes out of business due to no profit), DOUBLING the paperwork, DOUBLING the tooling costs, and doubling the man hours to build the same damn thing, because one prick Senator's afraid of not getting re-elected...



THAT'S how Government Contracts work... That's while Remington no longer competes... They sell a BILLION of the damn things because they are THAT good. They don't need a Marine Corps Contract...



PS Show me the proof that a Mossy is more "drop-sfae" than a 870...



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Old January 1st, 2009, 07:52 AM   #21
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I agree with Jester and Jeff, the 870 is a fine shotgun and if had competed in the trials I believe we would (military) we would firing a different shotgun. Besides that Remington was smart to utilize the civilian and LE markets. Trust me, I have had both a 590 and a 870; I simply like the 870's feel and function better.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 09:27 AM   #22
 
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To the OP: some like Mossberg and some like Remington. This is about what I thought would happen when I saw this thread. It is like Chevy vs Ford. The reality is that both Mossberg and Remington both make good shotguns. Both work and are reliable. So the real question it which one you like, not which one we like.



You really need to fire both if possible. But at least shoulder both and see how they feel, and get the feel for the location and function of the controls. And if you can't fire both it would be great if you could load the magazines with snap caps and cycle them thru the action. Azooms are good for this as they have nearly the same weight as a real shell. Then you make your own informed decision.



Or you could do like me and own both!
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Old January 1st, 2009, 01:56 PM   #23
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If you have your heart set on a shotgun for home defense (as opposed to alternative choices), Remington 870.



If you do end up going the 870 route ... take the time, effort and expense to get one of the Police models.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 03:05 PM   #24
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If you have your heart set on a shotgun for home defense (as opposed to alternative choices), Remington 870.



If you do end up going the 870 route ... take the time, effort and expense to get one of the Police models.




Agree, either find a wingmaster and upgrade, or get a police model.



the 870 express is the mossy 500 equal. the wingmasters and police are unmatched.
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Old January 1st, 2009, 04:02 PM   #25
 
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Wife likes Remington 1100, I like Remington 11-87 we both love the Remington 870. We like to buy used and then outfit them to our liking. All mine are left hand guns.
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Ive got a Stoeger 12ga pump. I bought it to shot varmints around my farm. It was cheap and thats why I bought it. The on;y beef I have with it, is there arent any aftermarket accesories for it. I want a Remmy 870. I want to bling bling it up
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Old January 8th, 2009, 03:24 PM   #27
 
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I have the mossberg JIC. I bought it at gander mountain for 300. I personally like having just the pistol grip, it makes it more manuverable for me in a home devense situation, instead of having the extra foot of stock on the back. I added a light and a heat shield(not needed, just makes it look neat). I think the most basic is better, it stays under my bed, if i hear bumps in the night, i go clear the house. I like it, but it's personal preference.
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Old January 8th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #28
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I have a win 1300. 18.5 in barrel 6 shot tube. I love it! Its the smoothest pump i have ever picked up!
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Old January 8th, 2009, 06:22 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Mr. Clean' post='178898' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:56 PM
If you have your heart set on a shotgun for home defense (as opposed to alternative choices), Remington 870.



If you do end up going the 870 route ... take the time, effort and expense to get one of the Police models.


+1 and here's some Remmy porn!



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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:18 PM   #30
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This a very good side-by-side comparison of the Mossberg 590 and the Remington 870.



870 and 590 Comparison
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