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This is a discussion on best defense shotgun within the Shotguns forums, part of the Armory category; Originally Posted by Morgan Walker' post='180618' date='Jan 10 2009, 03:18 PM This a very good side-by-side comparison of the Mossberg 590 and the Remington 870. ...


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Old January 10th, 2009, 11:58 AM   #31
 
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This a very good side-by-side comparison of the Mossberg 590 and the Remington 870. (link)
Good article but several things in it are dated. Remington no longer uses the J-lock on the Express and haven't for some time now. Also, Express models that come from the factory with a magazine extension have the old style system, same as the Police models (no dents in the tube and a ball detent locking system for the extension tube.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:10 PM   #32
 
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Myself, I have a 500 in my closet with a 18.5" barrel on it. The selling point for me was where the safety is and the slide release is on the 500. I feel they are easier and faster for me to get to than the 870, especially the slide release.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #33
 
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I've had all 3 at the same time - 18.5" Winchester 1300 Defender, 18.5" Remington 870 , and 20" Mossberg M590A1. They all were reliable and they all shot when I pulled the trigger.



Of the 3, I liked the M590A1 the best (dual extractors, easily replacable ejector, position of shell lifter for reloads under pressure, and better location of the safety and slide release), but sold it anyway as it was too heavy and long for a house gun.



The felt recoil on the 1300 was the worst by far, and sold it also.



Knowing what I know now from owning all 3, if I was buying just one pump SG, I would buy a regular 590 (not the heavy barrel) in 18.5".



I still have the 870, but will probably replace it with a Mossberg 930SPX.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 04:03 PM   #34
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I like the Benelli Super Novas. I was going to get a 590A1 but I decided I will get the Super Nova.
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Old February 2nd, 2009, 04:45 PM   #35
 
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I love my 870's. My Dad has a couple 1100's as well as his stable of Ithaca breech loaders. I will cast my vote for Remmies in this one...although I have yet to fire a Mossy or Benelli. I guess I am just biased.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 07:49 AM   #36
 
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I have a benelli M1.

reliability?

everyone talks pumps; pumps are great, blah blah blah...



Go to a shotgun class for match, where the guys running pumps get into some high stress drills. You get a ton of short stroking. And these are usually seasoned law enforcement that have had a good amount of serious shotgunning training.

Im the last 1800-2000 shells Ive put through mine, I have exactly one issue, a shell was undercharged and didnt fully eject. It was a walmart value pack of the federal light stuff. That will never happen with heavier defense shells.



I think that more folks go to shotguns when they hear bump in ther night than should.

If you guys do a lot of pistol training, but little shotgun training, get a light for your handgun and call it good.



just my .02
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 09:12 AM   #37
 
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The Mossy 590A1s will work when run hard, with reasonable maintenance. 870s will do the same, just more polished and smoother.



The safety / action release lever of the 590 are why I use it……..and I cut my teeth on a 590, never venturing beyond as far as shotguns go.



The pistol grip of the J.I.C is not ideal for serious training with the shotgun, but handy in confined areas.



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Old February 3rd, 2009, 09:24 AM   #38
 
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Mossberg 930 SPX



Essentially a $550 FN SLP thats runs just as good
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Old February 4th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #39
 
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What do you all thinkof the Ithaca Model 37?

I know that Ithaca used to make extremely high quality shotguns in the past but they have switched onwers numerous times over the years.

Are they still as high quality as they used to be?
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Old February 12th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #40
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I run a Benelli M1 Super 90. Full stock with a vertical grip, Surefire forend, ghost rings and extended tube. I couldn't really fault anyone for getting a pump, 870 or 590 as long as you train with it, but in man on man competitions that I have seen and participated in, I have seen military and law enforcement guys short stoke alot more than I have seen malf's with autoloaders. The key to autoloaders is to test the ammo and go with it. When I'm multiple target training against pumps I feel like I'm cheating. I have also seen instructors run a pump as fast as I can run the Benelli. It also shoots soft, 600 rounds in a 4 day course, no problem, Birdshot, 00 buck and slugs.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 08:11 PM   #41
 
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Just picked this up. Will have it this week, awaiting shipping. It is a late '60s Ithaca m37 12g Deerslayer.

I figure it will go well with my 870 wingmaster 20g.



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Old February 22nd, 2009, 08:40 PM   #42
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If the 870 is "better built" than a Mossberg why are the Marines buying Mossberg 590s instead of 870s?




The reason is simple... Remington did not even submit a weapon into the bid process. Why? It is thought by most that Remington had nothing to gain a quite a bit to lose by participating in the bid process. If they won, it would have been a small addition to their already stellar sales to LE agencies and other government contracts. If they were not chosen, it would have been a black eye for all those LE agencies to see.
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Old March 13th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #43
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870 all the way. Considered both the Remi and the Mossy. After picking them up side by side the Mossy just felt "cheaply built" to me.
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Old March 30th, 2009, 06:27 PM   #44
 
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I'm ready to purchse a 12 gauge shotgun for home defense. I'm looking at the mossberg JIC but nobody has one in stock. If you know where to find one or have a suggestion on a better unit please post it here.
In my opinion, I think that a mossberg 590 would be the best choice.... ghost ring sights are great too
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I like my pistol grip Franchi SAS12, hard to find though. I have only 300 rounds through it, but works great and looks mean
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