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This is a discussion on best defense shotgun within the Shotguns forums, part of the Armory category; Originally Posted by repair My next home gun I,m thinking of a 410 I wouldn't bet my life on a 410, for home defense a ...


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Old March 28th, 2016, 08:49 PM   #61
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My next home gun I,m thinking of a 410
I wouldn't bet my life on a 410, for home defense a 12 gauge is the best advice, my longtime favorite from back when I was a Deputy, any reliable 12 gauge pump will do, and at the short range for home defense you don't need buckshot, our standard load for inside use was #4 Duck & Pheasant, thats a high brass load. One of our Deputies unfortunately had to use this on a barricaded perp, range was less than 10 feet the ME said he was dead before he hit the floor, center chest wound, the heart was shredded.
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Until the last two posts, I was about to ask about the need for buck shot and slugs for HD.... What is the typical range of a HD encounter, if there is such a thing?
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Old March 29th, 2016, 07:15 AM   #63
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6 or 7 ft according to studies.
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Old March 29th, 2016, 08:43 AM   #64
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Here's an option not mentioned

Grab the shorter version of the Beretta 1301 Competition. Mine is 24" with a Nordic tube and special follower, but the 21" still takes a Nordic tube...and is reputably the fastest cycling shotgun out there. My heavy set military friends can't hold her down through firing all rounds...yes it's that quick...quicker tahn anyone would need. Currently I have it set for 9+1 and can handle any choke you like. Doubles as a great gun for sporting clays, and all my upland hunting. Front sight is fiber optic already, the loading port is already chamfered for fast loads. Too many good features to list. One bonus with this over any other gas semi's is that the gas action if NOT going to foul like the Remmy or the Benelli. It's been flawless so far and eats anything I've fed her.
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Old April 5th, 2016, 10:21 AM   #65
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6 or 7 ft according to studies.
But...whatever you use you need to pattern test it to at least 25-30 feet before relying on it. 25-30 feet is about the longest open sight line in most homes so you want to make sure your ammo and gun still keep a decently tight group within that distance especially with lighter loads.

#3 or #4 is about the lightest I would recommend myself, anything else can have penetration issues with even a good heavy denim/leather jacket unless at point blank range. Sheet rock and clothing react differently when it comes to penetration so you have to keep that in mind. Personally I use 9 pellet 00 Buck since I don't have to worry about over penetration. While my 590A1 has always had my heart, I keep a very well tested and proven (mine at least) KSG w/ weapon light (girlfriend can't shoulder the 590A1 properly despite it only having a 12" LOP) loaded with buck and slugs on a concealed set up beside the bed.
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How about a semi? I've shot my M2 with no issues for years. Or, if too expensive, consider a Stoeger M3000.
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How about a semi? I've shot my M2 with no issues for years. Or, if too expensive, consider a Stoeger M3000.
If you train with it and know it's reliability then that is totally up to you if you think its good enough to defend you and your loved ones life with it in my opinion.
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How about a semi? I've shot my M2 with no issues for years. Or, if too expensive, consider a Stoeger M3000.
I agree here. The Stoeger M3000 is an awesome gun if money is an issue. Can even be more modified for speed loading etc also and is very very reliable. For me it was a choice between a modded M3000 and the Beretta 1301 comp.

Edit: and forget that movie crap about the sound of a pump shotgun being racked scaring off intruders. If you need to make yourself known, you'll likely end up dead due to those few uncertain seconds of racking and waiting for a response.

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If the 870 is "better built" than a Mossberg why are the Marines buying Mossberg 590s instead of 870s?
It's not. Mossberg is the better gun.
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I just put an 18.5 inch barrel on my mossberg 500.
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It's not. Mossberg is the better gun.
The Mossberg/Remington debate is at least as old as Ford/Chevy, and you will find solid believers on both sides of the argument.

Why are they buying Mossbergs? If you know anything about how govt works, the contract goes to the lowest bidder that meets the specs. At least they have specs, too many purchasing agents look only at price and nothing else. I'm reminded of a long hard fought battle with a state purchasing agent who was buying 55 gal barrels of degreaser for use in the state auto shops, he couldn't understand that what he was really paying for was 5 gallons of degreaser and 50 gallons of water.
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The Mossberg/Remington debate is at least as old as Ford/Chevy, and you will find solid believers on both sides of the argument.

Why are they buying Mossbergs? If you know anything about how govt works, the contract goes to the lowest bidder that meets the specs. At least they have specs, too many purchasing agents look only at price and nothing else. I'm reminded of a long hard fought battle with a state purchasing agent who was buying 55 gal barrels of degreaser for use in the state auto shops, he couldn't understand that what he was really paying for was 5 gallons of degreaser and 50 gallons of water.
If you have a Mossberg 500/590 problem anyone can fix one at home, not so much for an 870.

Dented Tube on an 870? Requires a Gunsmith with Soldering Skills
Dented Tube on a 500/590? Strap Wrench

Bad Ejector on an 870? Riveting Jig and a Gunsmith
Bad Ejector on a 500/590? Screwdriver

Worn Lockup on 870? Replace the Barrel
Worn Lockup on a 500/590? Replace the Barrel

Worn Feed Latches on an 870? Needs Staking Tool
Worn Feed Latches on a 500/590? No Tools
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