|December 7th, 2010, 06:01 PM||#32|
Join Date: Apr 2008
My biggest dilemma when I can afford a $1k rifle, will be to buy a nice AK or a decent AR first. My mind changes everyday. AK for reliability, AR for range/accuracy.
Hopefully Ill have the money and made up my mind by the time the world ends.
|December 7th, 2010, 08:08 PM||#33|
Join Date: Aug 2009
It's not much of a Dilemma for me because in a recent thread I asked about the ACOG and best uses for it. Now I will just find a firearm to suit.
It will be a while. The world will be around a bit longer than any of us.
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|December 12th, 2010, 01:10 PM||#34|
Join Date: Jul 2006
Just today we have voluntary evacuations: http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-voluntary-...,0,640571.story
Something to think about...
|December 12th, 2010, 03:52 PM||#35|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: El Paso Texas
I feel your pain and I wish you and your family the best, looks like more rain in the future too.
|December 15th, 2010, 11:29 PM||#36|
Join Date: Sep 2010
Nater- My personal opinion is ¨one of each¨, however I understand this is not realistic for everyone. I have decided to make the AR my primary long gun platform and all of my non-pistol training has revolved around it. I plan to do some course work with the AK, but that´s down the road. Find a platform you can operate well and stick with it until you´re proficient.
|December 19th, 2010, 01:59 PM||#37|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Marietta, GA
I think some of you underestimate carrying all this stuff is not very conducive to a quick & quiet escape. Also, I have seen many of the people that talk highly of themselves and their ability to bug out and honestly the physical condition these guys are in will be the biggest liability to them. Water, bullets, food and weapons get heavy real quick and you will never be able to carry enough if it gets that bad. For those that live in cities, driving will almost be impossible if you don't happen to leave before the said disaster.
|December 19th, 2010, 02:37 PM||#38|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: phoenix, az
living in a big city, bugging out for me is not practical. it's just not going to happen. as such, even the idea of a mid to long range rifle, like an ak or ar - i just don't see the need. so i'm going to pick off people from my roof or something? i just can't imagine any scenario. i'm going with multiple shot guns. i want to see the whites of their eyes. i want to be sure if i'm shooting friend or foe.
|December 27th, 2010, 10:34 PM||#39|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Everyone one is making this so complex i would just have one of these boxes laying around for JIC situations. I Just got rid of my rifle so i scraped the idea of keeping one of these pelicans in my trunk at all times. Instead i'm just going to go with a bug out bag with a 637 j frame back up gun and extra m&p mags with a couple other goodies. I plan on actually packing stuff that you would use in the real world not water putrefaction tablets and 10 feet of bunge cord! I know everyone builds there bags and kits according to there needs but i see it over and over useless stuff. I mean having all this stuff laying around is bound to get you in trouble unless you have it stashed away but then what good is it. Best part is if your active duty you are a walking Get Out Of Anything plan!
Another good load out is Main rifle up back up SMG along with a good sidearm
Fitted Pelican Case With Desirable Guns In There. Here Is What You Get: Colt 6921 5.56mm SBR All Factory, An Advanced Armament Co M4-2000 5.56mm Suppressor, An SWR Trident 9mm Modular Suppressor, A Sig Sauer P226 Combat In 9mm, A Surefire X200 Weapons Flashlight, Quad Rail, Tango Down Throw Lever Quick Detach Battle Grip, Arms #40 BUIS, Surefire 6P Handheld Flashlight, Microtech Curahee Fixed Blade Knife With Sheath, Trijicon ACOG NSN, 4 Spare 123 Batteries For The 6P, 3 HK High Reliability Maritime 5.56mm 30 Round Magazines, 2 Spare Sig Sauer P226 9mm 15 Round Magazines.
This one is even better for a couple!
This Kit Is An "Al You Ever Need" Kit. It Comes With The New FN SCAr Both In 7.62x51 And 5.56mm. Both In Desert Tan.. Also Included Is The Fn USG Tactical Pistol In 45 Acp Complete With Silencerco Osprey In Flat Dark Earth. The 5.56mm Has The Trijicon ECOS-RMR Mounted On It.
They even have the Lone Wolf Kit!
|January 8th, 2011, 01:12 PM||#41|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: God's Country, Northwestern Montana
I love how this is said time and again about us. Yes, we believe in being prepared. 'Hoarding' to me sounds like we do it in excess. The fact that a religion teaches it's followers to be prepared often looks to others like they're planning to survive some post-apocalyptic crisis that only we will know is coming. Our church has been preaching and teaching to us to be prepared for more decades than most of us have been alive. Something along the lines of: "Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
Yes I am LDS, or Mormon as you call it. Just don't make it sound so bad next time. We were teaching preparedness before it was cool!!
|January 8th, 2011, 04:10 PM||#42|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Colo Spgs CO
Not sure how this could be much more hilarious. A crisis in my craphole subdivision so bad I need to pack up and 'leave' for somewhere, but not so bad that I can't afford to carry 400 lbs of weapons. I guess because, while I'm apparently running from an enemy here in my own neighborhood, I have a plan to fall back and reassemble somewhere in someone else's neighborhood, where my cache of rifles will somehow be more effective. Oh, and don't I wish I had a radio to communicate with my resistance comrades, but I don't have a radio and don't know how to operate one. So I guess I'll just have to rely on those PowerBars, DoubleShots and bottles of spring water to git me through.
Lord. What scenario, exactly, are we planning for? I'm so well armed I can't actually carry it all, but not armed well enough to stand my ground and defend my own frigging block. Maybe, just maybe, this should point out the fact that being armed doesn't mean squat. Being able to communicate with folks you know...is everything. We won't survive because of weaponry or high energy drinks...we'll survive because we can gather. If you can't gather and organize, you're in a hero movie, and god help you.
I'm with Lastrook, firmly, on this one. My suggestion is to go buy a few more pair of tactical pants and maybe a hip holster or two and some first aid kits.
|January 23rd, 2011, 01:15 AM||#43|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Oahu, Hawaii
S&W MP 45
Springfield Armory M1A Scout w/ 3 20rnd mags
1 bag filled with batteries aa, c, cr123, MRES non civ , emergency blanket, 1 box all strike matcs, 1 emerson knife, 1 fiskar machete, Misquito repelant, 1 can of soup(food+tin can), 1 compass, 200 rounds 45 winchester ranger, 150 rounds .308 winchester, 66 rounds magtech 44
1 duffle bag medium small size?? filled with clothes and toilettries, socks , 1 bottle of bombay sapphire, medium first aid kit, 40 ft paracord, 1 emergency crank radio, + 1 poloroid camera (don't know how epic these photographs will be)
|January 23rd, 2011, 04:59 AM||#44|
Join Date: Jan 2009
|January 23rd, 2011, 06:50 AM||#45|
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Silverton, Oregon
What I see around here is a lot of people buying up all kinds of survival gear to head for the hills. Im willing to bet that 90% nof these people could not start a fire in sunny and 70 weather. Those people have no idea how hard it is to start a fire in wind and rain or when your so cold that your shaking.
I just think that all the cool gear and big ideas wont save you. Its knowledge of your gear and how you use it , that will really make the difference.
Ok rant time over. I was not directing this at members of this site, its just something that I see around my area that makes me laugh.
The truth is that its hard to get around town at rush hour here, so a major evac would be a no go. Also the city has major rivers in all directions so if a quake was to hit, were going no where without a boat.
So bugging in is the option I will choose for as long as I can get away with it
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