This is a discussion on Are you stuck with one caliber if the SHTF? within the Survival forums, part of the Armory category; Originally Posted by JeffWard I would never question the accuracy, but unless you can consistently shoot moving eye-sockets, you are horribly mistaken in terms of ...
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|January 2nd, 2013, 08:24 AM||#31|
Join Date: Jul 2012
I do have one of the Umarex HK MP5s in .22LR. I have to say it is very accurate at distance and is capable of firing at a very high, controllable rate. It dosen't provide the best single shot stopping power, but I wouldn't want to stand in front of one when 10 rounds go down range quickly. Then, there is the problem of having to send 10 rounds down range in order to stop someone...
|January 2nd, 2013, 12:13 PM||#32|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Oh, I agree. Give me a guy standing dead still, facing me, at 25 yards, and give me my Ruger 10/22, and he's gonna get his card punched in one shot. Pick an eyeball... But if he's moving, pissed off, and coming for me with a military caliber pistol or rifle? I'm reaching for something with a little more pop... LOL
|January 11th, 2013, 08:20 AM||#33|
Join Date: Dec 2012
2-3 stingers or velocitors in the chest and 1 to the now slower moving head. I can carry 3 22lr. bullets per cost and weight of a .45 ACP. I've also personally witnessed a 3 shot burst of .22lr penetrate though a steel power panel and out the back side panel in the same hole as opposed to the .45 which penetrated the 1st layer of steel and dropped dead in a ball at the 2nd layer. I was however, using my 10/22 in all fairness.
And he was correct that I would prefer size/weight/accuracy over stopping power. I also have a complete understanding of anatomy to accompany that little .22 on it's way to preserving my life. I also have lasers for moving targets.
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|February 4th, 2013, 09:28 AM||#34|
Join Date: Jul 2008
If the s really htf there will be no resupply.heck,look for ammo on the store shelves now. lay in a supply when its available and then replace as you use it. buy a case or 2 and then when you shoot a box of it,replace it with 1or more.
|February 4th, 2013, 10:10 AM||#35|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE Michigan
.22, .223/5.56, 12ga. Also have a SKS just cause.
Adding a .308 bolt action this year.
If I could only have ONE I guess I would have to go with the .22 since I have a rifle and a handgun for the caliber. It's light and cheap.
|February 4th, 2013, 10:18 AM||#36|
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: People's Republik of New York
All I need is one long range caliber (.300 WSM) and a list of the people nearby who are stockpiling food and handguns for me.
If SHTF as bad as this thread suggests, 3 months in it won't be about what you started with but more about what you were able to retain or acquire. Guns and ammo will be nice, but knowledge will be the most valuable treasure.
|May 29th, 2014, 03:30 PM||#38|
Join Date: Feb 2013
|May 30th, 2014, 07:03 PM||#40|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salish Sea
|May 31st, 2014, 10:19 AM||#42|
Join Date: Jan 2009
SHFT essentials' Potable Water, Food, Medications, and Shelter may be more important to longevity than the amount of ammunition on hand. Your means of mobility determines the amount of essentials thus duration that one would have on hand.
Having undergone training in my younger days example Jungle Warfare, Fort Sherman, Canal Zone in Panama climate has an effect on your chances of survival.
Yes weapons and proficiency is part of your survival plan but not the only part.
|May 31st, 2014, 02:20 PM||#43|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Salish Sea
|May 31st, 2014, 03:57 PM||#44|
Join Date: May 2014
I personally like.22 lr, .45ACP and 12ga ...lol just the other day a buddy and I were talking about this same thing. He swears by his six Mosin Nagant 7.62x54r and has many thousands of rounds stored in those big green tins. I like his idea but the ammo (and firearms) that the gov't has purchased and stockpiled in the millions has me convinced to stay with what Uncle Sugar has that I can take.
|May 31st, 2014, 07:17 PM||#45|
Join Date: Apr 2014
My dad has a 45 acp m1911 and a lever action 30/30 , I have a 40 cal, but violence from threats aside if I needed a survival gun id get myself a black powder gun from academy in 50cal and stock up on powder, it just seems like the economical choice due to how easy it is to make a lead ball, everyone thinks about guns to kill off threats and nobody considers a gun for taking down some animals for food. A 22lr rifle would also be good for small game, we have guns and will be getting more guns, but I should invest in a nice hunting rifle. I wont get a black powder gun now just cuz I have not one use for it but if shtf it would be a great addition. I agree with dennis though, there are other essentials that are more important in order to survive, unless your home can sustain a family for a lifetime, being mobile is a must and unless you have a way of carrying all of that ammo and all of those guns then whats the point. An even more eco friendly idea would be to keep one good side arm and invest in a long bow just cuz they are easy to main tain or a compound bow and go nuts making arrows,
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