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Old July 18th, 2016, 08:25 AM   #1
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M&P9 Pro - IDPA

Normally I run a MP40 police trade-in. Upgraded to a MP9 Pro 5" and this is my first match with it. Gun only had 17rds thru it when the match started.

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Old July 18th, 2016, 08:51 AM   #2
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A lot of fun. Good shooting.
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Old July 18th, 2016, 11:04 AM   #3
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That certainly isn't USPSA! :-) Not better or worse, just obviously different.
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Old July 19th, 2016, 02:46 PM   #4
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Only been shooting for approx 7 months, still lots to improve upon, but it is certainly fun. USPSA is still rather intimidating but maybe someday. The M&P9Pro 5" with that fiber optic front sight was tons easier to use than my MP40 with old grayish trijicon night sights. That MP40 was a used Police gun and was also annoying for the mag safety, which I never removed.

My 11yr old daughter starts IDPA next week (NFC ) with a MP22c so that should be fun! Subscribe to that Youtube channel for more shooting. IDPA / Steel Challenge.
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Old July 19th, 2016, 03:23 PM   #5
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Don't let USPSA intimidate you, at least from my experience.

I'm just a D class shooter, and my brother came up to visit and shot his first USPSA action pistol match. He was most impressed by the shooters in our squad, and they weren't hand picked. When I made a procedural error he told me that he could hear the groans of the other shooters in the squad. I had informed him of this... that ones fellow shooters want the shooter to do good and that there is nothing but good vibes to the rear. He got to see that first hand. He called me today to check on the gear he needed to continue to shoot USPSA.

The biggest "problem" is one of rules. IDPA and USPSA have different rules. For instance, I believe IDPA needs reloads from behind cover. We can reload on the run. I also saw some targets with hand imprints on them which I assume to be "no shoots". Our no shoots are white. There are probably more differences, with gun classifications too.

I've always taken IDPA to be more geared to be a "carry" type game, and USPSA is more "anything goes". Both are games. I shoot USPSA for fun and to learn to control stress. But that doesn't mean that I don't want to do the best I can. I just don't want to work at it. I shoot it because shooting paper at home is boring and USPSA is what we have locally to spice up my shooting. Probably similar reasons folks in IDPA also shoot their game.

I recently worked the Area 7 USPSA Championship, and saw the level of shooting that top competitors shoot at. Just incredible. I'm not at that level and may never be, but it's nice to see it. A better bunch of people you'll never find in one place. I'm certain that IDPA is exactly the same in that. There is room for the D class shooter and grand master in both.

BTW, you couldn't pay me to work another area level match; they simply haven't printed enough money for that yet. But I'll volunteer to do it for free. It was hell and fantastic all rolled up into one. You need to experience it to understand that statement. It took my old senior bones, and mind, days to come back to normal. I'm already thinking ahead to next years match.
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Excellent points, Brian!

I train extensively to enhance my CCW skills (real training, not just going to the range) and have chosen to participate in IDPA as a means to practice and retain what I've learned. I don't do it to compete, but usually manage to finish in the top few overall.

The reason I chose it over USPSA (and I did shoot IPSC back in the '90's) is that I absolutely know that you'll perform (at the best) how you train when the chips are down, and I want the use of cover, concealment, differentiating between "threats" and "non-threats", etc. to be "hardwired" into my reactions as much as possible.

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I'd like to shoot IDPA I think. But it's not regularly done in Maine that I know of, and not locally. USPSA is very local. It's done monthly at 2 ranges, the furthest within an hours drive. I also don't know which division my handgun would fall into in IDPA. I need an optic due to old fart eyes. In USPSA I'm in Carry optics division, but it really isn't a carry gun. If I put the ported barrel back into it I'd be in Open division but without all of the other doodads that truly make up an Open (race type, Buck Rogers looking) gun.

BTW, here are the pix from the Area 7 Championship we just hosted. The furthest distance traveled was a couple from Estonia. I mailed out prizes (I'm chief cook and bottle washer for "Krampert's Finest" and I sponsored part of the match) to all over the nation; as far away as WA, LA, and GA. We had some REALLY good shooters there are watching them shoot was the fantastic part of the match. As a scorer I saw everyone come through "my" stage except for Max Michel who shot with the staff on Friday. BTW, I shot 8 rounds then DQ'ed myself by breaking the 180 rule. The stage was designed to encourage that and I got caught. Totally my fault. So I put my gear away and helped run the match for the staff.

Anyway, the pix: Pay attention to the youngest shooter... 9 years old. Notice the helper stand that had to be put in front of the ports for him. If he keeps shooting we will definitely hear more about Jake. He's already a good shooter. He began shooting at age 4 with his dads help.
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Hmm, no way to post a single picture as a link. OK, top row in the first page of pix, extreme right hand photo. It has a gent in a bright shirt standing in the bed of a pickup truck. In the lower right of that picture, in the OD t-shirt and white hat with the subdued flag on it. That would be me.
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I'm surprised to hear that y'all don't have a local IDPA group yet.

Sorry to hear of your DQ.

You could shoot your Pro in IDPA w/o the ported barrel, but you wouldn't be able to use it with an optical sight.

I have "old eyes" myself.
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It is shot up here, just not near me and I don't think that's it's a "regular" thing. I think it's shot in S' Maine and it's just too far to travel even w/o the optics issue. I've been invited to go with others down to NH with others driving and I just don't want to travel that distance.

Looks like I'll just stay with USPSA. Without optics I don't shoot. I can see the front sight just fine, but I can't see the target and it hurts too much to hit no-shoots. I was going to shoot in Open division just to be able to use optics, but I wouldn't have had a competitive gun. I just wanted to be able to shoot again and see what I was doing.
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It is shot up here, just not near me and I don't think that's it's a "regular" thing. I think it's shot in S' Maine and it's just too far to travel even w/o the optics issue. I've been invited to go with others down to NH with others driving and I just don't want to travel that distance.

Looks like I'll just stay with USPSA. Without optics I don't shoot. I can see the front sight just fine, but I can't see the target and it hurts too much to hit no-shoots. I was going to shoot in Open division just to be able to use optics, but I wouldn't have had a competitive gun. I just wanted to be able to shoot again and see what I was doing.
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