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Old November 18th, 2016, 10:41 AM   #1
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Toddler Militia - Adorable Deplorable

As stated in the youtube description, range safety is paramount and all rules followed. Much homework was done with her to ensure a safe experience. Weapons handling drills, finger vs trigger, grip, eyes and ears, tons. Even the Eddie Eagle program through the NRA was utilized.

Ex-Army and no child in my home will be without weapon skills as long as I have guns in the home. NOTE: this little shitbird chose to come to the range with daddy instead of a fun day out shopping with mommy! /winning

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Old November 18th, 2016, 11:45 AM   #2
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If she can handle the gun safely, and it certainly appeared so, why not?

Some folks can't understand muzzle discipline well into their 60s. My wife is one of those. I try, but she just doesn't understand don't point the muzzle anywhere but downrange. Needless to say our range sessions are extremely short.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 12:34 PM   #3
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Never too young to start training them in safe handling!

Not long ago a young man was killed, his little brother was having a sleepover, apparently the younger brother got his hands on his parents 38 revolver, his visitor was handling it when he pulled the trigger and accidentally killed the older brother. So in this situation a loaded firearm wasn't properly secured, and their own kids hadn't been trained in firearms safety, that resulted in a tragic accidental death.

http://swoknews.com/area/boy-arreste...ting-sleepover

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Old November 21st, 2016, 11:14 AM   #4
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I have tested my kids a few times, left my carry gun on the counter (holstered and empty - no reason other than to test them), and when they went to do dinner clean up duty they didn't even flinch, didn't touch it and just yelled at me for leaving a gun on the counter!

well done kids, well done.
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Old November 23rd, 2016, 04:05 PM   #5
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Is there a Federal law requiring all homes with kids to always secure all guns?
Our kids are adults,when not here, my guns are all loaded and holstered (to cover trigger). I don't leave them lying around in the open except during cleaning/repairs etc.
When my kids and grand kids are here,all guns are LOCKED UP.
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No federal law like that.
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Old November 27th, 2016, 06:16 AM   #7
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Is there a Federal law requiring all homes with kids to always secure all guns?

Our kids are adults,when not here, my guns are all loaded and holstered (to cover trigger). I don't leave them lying around in the open except during cleaning/repairs etc.

When my kids and grand kids are here,all guns are LOCKED UP.


No LAW for it.
Just common sense of the gun owner.
However as evidenced every day some people dont have any or rarely apply it in daily life.



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Old November 27th, 2016, 06:35 AM   #8
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There could be state law. Check with your local PD would be what I'd do.

I hear you though. No rug rats here, so when I'm home there are loaded guns out. When we leave, the guns go into the safe, that is, whatever guns I don't take along.

If there are children in your home that are old enough to learn you might want to "gun proof" them. I did this with my nephews and they still remember it to this day, and they are mid-aged with children of their own. It works like this. I did this on my home range, you'd need to modify that for your circumstance. Take a gallon milk jug and fill it with water. Add enough red food color to make it look like blood. Take a firearm with sufficient power and suitable ammo to blow up the jug. I used a hollow point bullet launched from a .357. Everyone steps back so as not to get sprayed. A talk is given about how dangerous firearms are, not toys, not to touch them without permission, yada, yada. Then the jug is blown up and the "cloud" of red water is quite dramatic. Explain that it's not a toy and there is no bringing a bullet back and undoing the damage, yada, yada. The red water is obvious as to the blood connection. But couple that lesson with if they see a firearm and would like to handle it come and just ask but don't touch on their own. They need to know that they are considered responsible enough to handle firearms under the right circumstances, and they'll try to fill that role if it's given to them.

When I did that with my nephews I had a 1917 Enfield in the shop. I later saw them out there looking at it and being very careful not to touch it, but just looking and talking. I went in and asked if they'd like to handle it. You must carry through with your promise so that they know that in the proper setting it's OK and you weren't just BSing them about your end of the bargain. If they had been older (larger) I'd have let them fire it but they could barely lift the gun at the age they were at. But during that visit they were able to do some shooting.

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You're gonna wake up with a dead body on the floor. Daughter's gonna walk out of her room, rubbing her eyes, hair all messy from just waking up, on her way to poor a bowl of cereal, while yawning... "ahhhhhhm, oh yea, guy broke in while you and mommy were asleep, I took care of it. Can you get me a bowl?"

My daughter got her first pistol for christmas at 7. She's 13 now, so keep it up and you'll have a shooting buddy for life. I have 3 more on the way. Training your children in firearms, saves money cause you don't need a security system... ;P

As far as children and guns go, a hundred years ago children mostly didn't touch the parent's guns because they knew they were simply tools and weren't shielded from them. Our modern liberal sheltering society makes everything dangerous for kids, let alone just guns. My biggest fear is actually meds.

Education is the key keeping kids safe. We all know, cause we were there, that the more the mystery, the more we were interested and wanted to find out for ourselves. Demystify guns and your kids will see it like a spoon. Still, be safe and practice safety measures, but the mind of the user of anything is always the last defense against a tragic outcome. So if I had to pick one, I'd rather educate my kids and keep my guns out, than lock my guns up and not educate my kids. ALL safety measure fail sooner or later, or somehow. It's the kid's brain that will decide the outcome, when everything else was defeated.

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Old December 2nd, 2016, 08:51 AM   #10
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agreed - education and removing the mysticism from guns is the key. my guns are in a safe, if they want to shoot on sat, they have to run dry fire drills on Friday or NO SHOOTING FOR YOU. My tests with a gun on the counter are done with the gun EMPTY, for purposes of re-enforcement of my rules, and safety concerns.

Trust the kids, but test that trust too. Kids are kids - you can only trust them so far - they have to know limits and consequences. Touch my damn gun, and you have to attend the shoot, reload all mags, but you WILL NOT SHOOT that day.

thanks all for the input and comments.
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