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This is a discussion on S&W Governor within the Wheelguns forums, part of the Armory category; Like I said snake gun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glIfHr2neQA One shot one snake....


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Old January 19th, 2011, 07:50 AM   #16
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Like I said snake gun.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glIfHr2neQA



One shot one snake.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 07:55 AM   #17
 
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The air gets a little thinner up in the $900.00+ Scanduim revolver market segment.



The Assorted Idiots Unable to Read a Ballistics Table, Movie Gun Fan Boi's that want a Cartoonishly Over sized Revolver and Know Nothing First time Buyers, that make up the Taurus Judge's following get much harder to find, once the price tag goes north of $500.00



And the outlandishly large framed Governor. I'd guess, probably uses more Scanduim per gun than any other super light weight alloy framed weapon in the 2011 S&W Sales Catalog.



Unveiling this abortion at the Shotshow is a move of such inconceivable stupidity, as to threaten every advance in the S&W brand name, gained since Safety Hammer walked into the Smith & Wesson front office. Who ever thought this one up should have been fired twenty four hours after the governors disastrous release to the gun media.



We were all waiting for a slim, concealable, single stack, 9mm thoroughbred like the new Ruger LC9 or the Walther PPS...What we got was a lame, Clydsdale, to sick to leave the stable.



Again. Who ever thought this one up should not only be fired from S&W, But they'r reputation should be so thoroughly destroyed, that the only firearms industry job they will ever be able to land in the future Would be assistant marketing director to a Turkish firm planing on importing cheap foreign copies of the .25 Raven
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Per usual here are the inflammatory comments from a self-proclaimed troll with only one stone.



Angry genetic throwback or troll? Any guesses?



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Old January 19th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #19
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If they don't sell, that guy could be fired.



If they sell, that guy could be promoted.



If market research shows potential profit, why not explore the option?



It's a niche, a novelty item, a conversation piece. Smith & Wesson is out to make money by offering products that appeal to the widest range of consumer's possible. A lot people might laugh the same way they laughed at Taurus, but in the end Taurus made money on the judge. If nobody wants it, it will flop. I would venture a guess to say that its not going to be a hit like the M&P has been, but that enough people will buy one to make it a commercial success.
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Originally Posted by MyLastRook' post='284601' date='Jan 19 2011, 11:55 AM
Again. Who ever thought this one up should not only be fired from S&W, But they'r reputation should be so thoroughly destroyed, that the only firearms industry job they will ever be able to land in the future Would be assistant marketing director to a Turkish firm planing on importing cheap foreign copies of the .25 Raven


Im sure it was more than just one person from S&W who came up with the idea for this. I dont necessarily care for it but I'm sure some will.



I sense a little pent up anger
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If market research shows potential profit, why not explore the option?


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Old January 19th, 2011, 09:12 AM   #22
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Just like the Judge... When the first 6 rounds of 410 shot/buck fail to penetrate any deeper than the rib cage, you can always cold-cock him with the cylinder...



Or if you prefer the "knock down power" of the 45 LC... you can carry one M&P45, or three of these! Thank God they're Scandium!!!







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Federal Premium® Judge Personal Defense Ammo states 1200 FPS in #4 and 000. There are four in the 000 buckshot load.



000 Buckshot has a nominal diameter of 0.360" (9.1 mm) and weighs 70 grains. At 1200 fps comes to 223.8 ft·lb per pellet (that is more than any .380 ACP load) With four 000 pellets that totals up to a respectable 895.2 ft·lb of energy at least on paper. At the very least it is four 1200 fps 70gr 000 buckshot making 223.8 ft·lb each shot and five fit in the Governor.



To me that sounds better than any .380 ACP and any lesser caliber in a handgun.



I do not want a .45/.410 revolver for SD/HD but it is a sufficient alternative for some people. The fact they are making it is cool, just like their race to retake the crown for most powerful production handgun & caliber. Sure the .460 S&W and .500 S&W are both way over the top and so are the designs of the firearms but it is still cool IMHO.



If it all makes them money then they have more money for R&D, for everything, including the more practical things like the M&P.



I support their silly wheel gun.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 10:03 AM   #24
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I would be one to buy one just to have and mess around with in the backwoods...Its just a cool weapon, what else can chamber all three of those very different rounds? And can you not get .410 slugs?
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To me that sounds better than any .380 ACP and any lesser caliber in a handgun.


My .380 stopping power weapon is a Kel-Tec that fits in my back pocket...



PS... 0000 Buck is 1200fps out of a 3" barrel??? I think that's a 24-26" barrel... NOT out of a pistol!







I'm not saying the Judge/Governor is an incapable man-stopper. It CAN stop someone.



And as a novelty gun, it's great...



But if I'm investing in a defensive weapon, for daily-carry/nightstand/defensive use... there are about 100 other alternatives that offer better stopping power, AND greater capacity, AND greater point-and-shootability, AND greater concealability, with MUCH LESS weight, MUCH better accuracy, and at a MUCH lower cost. This cannot be denied.



These novelty guns are sold as the ULTIMATE defensive weapon... Which nobody can argue they are, and do it with a straight face.



Taurus slams these things all over the TV set and sells TONS of them to non-shooters who see the exploding watermelons on TV. If they were advertised as a cool novelty item for collectors and watermelon-on-a-post defense... it would be truthful.



A 15lb, single-shot, 22LR that can only be shot left handed wearing special glasses... is a novelty gun too. Don't pitch it as a superior defensive gun.





Re .410 slugs... Please just stay with the 45 LC... The .410 slug is an even WORSE man-stopper.





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I would be one to buy one just to have and mess around with in the backwoods...Its just a cool weapon, what else can chamber all three of those very different rounds? And can you not get .410 slugs?


Yes .410 slugs are available. They aren't as effective as .45 LC or .45 ACP though.
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This definitely wouldnt be a defensive gun for me, I carry my #1 choice It would be fun to have though for sure.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 10:39 AM   #28
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I know this has you worked up Jeff but think about during the last gun scare how many more people were buying the .22LR, .25ACP, .32 ACP and .380 ACP handguns for SD/HD. There were all kinds of silly uninformed people telling other silly scared people that these calibers are effective and just as good as any service caliber.



I'd rather see Kel Tec producing millions of PMR-30s. They claim .22LR velocities from that of a rifle out of the PMR-30. 30 rounds of that will put lots of deflecting angry holes in soft tissue and it will certainly act like a BB in a blender inside of a brain case.
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Originally Posted by MyLastRook' post='284601' date='Jan 19 2011, 08:55 AM
The Assorted Idiots Unable to Read a Ballistics Table, Movie Gun Fan Boi's that want a Cartoonishly Over sized Revolver and Know Nothing First time Buyers,


Really? So what you’re saying is that if someone disagrees with you, they fit into one of these categories?



I do not fit into any of the above categories and yet I think it looks kind of neat. You know not every gun has to be for self defense. It might be a lot fun to play with.



I never tried to shoot skeet with a pistol!
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I'm not sure if this gun, or the Judge for that matter, can handle hot loaded 45 Colt. But if they can, 45 Colt can be loaded to near 454 Casull levels. Afterall, the 454 case is exactly the same as 45 Colt but is 0.1" longer. I have some hand loaded 260gr JHP 45 Colts that I made that put most factory 44 mag to shame. They come out of my 5.5" revolvers at 1450 fps, and out of my 24" barrel rifle at about 1700 fps. These can NOT be fired from the old original Colts or their clones even if they are made of modern steel. But they kick butt from a Ruger blackhawk or a lever gun.



I'm sure the barrel is too short on either of the guns in question to make that much of a load useful in most situations, but it does show the versatility of the round. Nor am I saying many would want this kind of power in home defense gun, but they are great a wilderness round for defense against big cats, wolves, coyotes and maybe even bears.



The 410 shotshell would be nice for snakes and rabbits as well. Shotshells also have obvious advantages in close quarters defense as well. For one, you don't have to worry so much about whats on the other side of the wall behind the BG.
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