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Old February 28th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #16
 
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The 460 is a nice gun because you can also shoot 454 or 45lc in them.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #17
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"You have more of a chance of meeting 5 naked supermodels that want your hot body than you do a bear that wants to eat you." (so says GJJ)
And I'm gonna be ready, the bear can wait.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:07 PM   #18
 
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Im in the market for one myself, im probably gonna end up tradng my 657 in for a 629 Mountain Gun. That would be the way to go IMO.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #19
 
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A pump 12 Gauge loaded with a deep penetrating slug. Easier to use, plenty of power, and inexpensive.
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A pump 12 Gauge loaded with a deep penetrating slug. Easier to use, plenty of power, and inexpensive.


Yep, 1st choice. Also consider 10mm. If it will be a rare thing, .460 Rowland or .45 Super.



If you get a shotgun, make sure it has a 3-1/2' capability, eh?

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I bought my now retired father a 40c a month ago, now he has decided to sell the farm, house, cat and move to "Bear Country." Literally, Northern Idaho has to many bears to count, and he is avid fly fisherman so you get were I am going with this. I am looking at a 460, or 500 Emergency kit. Could I have your feedback on the items. Especially a place to get a decent price, my God, they are expensive. The bad part he likes the 40c and wont give it up, so I now need come up with some serious cash.



Thanks in advance.




I've shot a lot of 454 through my Super Redhawk 7.5. Admittedly it ain't the prettiest thing on the planet but it WILL shoot. 100 yard shots with 45LC over iron sights are certainly doable and the gun is just about indestructible. I say this as someone who has reloaded with uber-hot loads (probably more than I should have) but a 405gr lead bullet over 1200 fps is certainly doable.



I am looking at the 5" 460 but one thing to consider on the price issue. If you need the best, your life is worth the 300 bucks difference. Best price I've seen is about 960 but that is a Texas price too.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #22
 
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I don't live in Bear County but am real close! I have a few 12ga Shotguns but for a handgun I would want to get .44 mag. I want to get a S&W 629 some day. I think that would work well if I ever go Elk Hunting in Montana with my Step-Dad. He has never seen amy Bears but a few Wolves.
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I would not be counting on guarding my life with a handgun or 12 gauge in bear country. The 12 gauge would only work at relatively close range and even then you probably need slugs. Get a rifle - a guide rifle or something light weight that he can toss on his shoulder would certainly be better and much cheaper than a .460 S&W or any other large caliber handgun. If a synthetic stock, he could even wade into the rivers/creeks with it as long as the bolt remains out of the water.



I would much rather have the power of a 7mm or .30+ caliber rifle cartridge than a less powerful but larger diameter .460 S&W cartridge. Just a quick story about this issue. My father was picking cherries one day in the mountains and all of a sudden he sees this bear running down the hill towards him. All he has is an old steel bucket. He dropped to the ground and the bear stopped. The bear stood on its hind legs and watched him until her two cubs walked around the side of the hill. She then walked back up the hill and followed them. From that day on, I always carried a high powered rifle with me when I go into those same mountains. You just never know what you will run into.
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Bear Counrty like Alaska (Grizzlies), or black bear country? If it is in the lower 48, a .44 mag with 300 grn Buffalo Bore rounds should work. Hell, it worked before the all mighty .454's, .460's and big mamma .500's were around.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 08:23 PM   #25
 
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Might be a Bit late, but i remembered reading an article awhile back that suggested a guy took a Polar Bear with a 44 mag. Heres a reliable source http://www.gunsandammomag.com/classics/polar_1007/



44 mag is more than enough for black bears, and plenty for a brown bear as well. Suppose you wouldnt want to be in panic mode with whatever caliber you choose!
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Or...







And I'd carry a Taurus 608 as a side-arm. 8 shots of .357 magnum are nothing to scoff at.



And if the bear gets through all that, I'll just climb a tree. Good luck to the bear, trying to climb up after me.
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Old May 11th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #27
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hows the bear population? you might just need a short rifle?
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Originally Posted by Morgan Walker' post='33911' date='Apr 22 2007, 03:50 PM
I bought my now retired father a 40c a month ago, now he has decided to sell the farm, house, cat and move to "Bear Country." Literally, Northern Idaho has to many bears to count, and he is avid fly fisherman so you get were I am going with this. I am looking at a 460, or 500 Emergency kit. Could I have your feedback on the items. Especially a place to get a decent price, my God, they are expensive. The bad part he likes the 40c and wont give it up, so I now need come up with some serious cash.



Thanks in advance.


I would recommend a Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan. This gun is designed for self defense against Alaska's biggest animals, both grizzly and moose, which I understand are both seen on occasion in Idaho and Montana. The cylinder and barrel are both made of 465 stainless - http://www.cartech.com/news/wr_news_sturmruger.html



Being a revolver, not only is it more reliable than a semi-auto, but it can be shot at contact range, a semi-auto would most likely only get one shot when the muzzle is pressed against the animal, which is a common distance when going up against a grizzly.



The Alaskan (like the Super Redhawk) is available in 44, 454 Casull, and 480 calibers. The 480 version has recently changed to a 5 shot version, due to difficulties extracting 6 empty rounds, where the chambers were too close to each other. The barrel is 2.5" and the gun weighs almost a pound less than the S&W500.



The 454 Casull model can also shoot 45 colt ammo at the range, making it more affordable to practice with. Buffalobores 454 Casull ammo is very powerfull - http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#454 and it can be handloaded beyond that. It comes with the Hogue tamer grip, which has a gel pad on the back for extra cushion.



http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_revie...grRH/index.html

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SRHAlaskan454.htm

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SRHAlaskan480.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z18b4nTCV3w



http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/53653



I'd like to have one of these to go with my GP100 and SP101, maybe next year.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #29
 
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I have always heard the only gun you need is a .22LR pistol..... that way you can shoot your buddy in the leg allowing you to run and get away.....
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Old May 18th, 2008, 02:32 PM   #30
 
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LoL thanks for the laugh! How true you are! I dont have to outrun the Bear,

I just have to outrun YOU!
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