This is a discussion on I Need a Bear Gun... within the Wheelguns forums, part of the Armory category; My opinion, unless you are going to be anywhere near Yellowstone, and know in fact that your area has some of the tiny population of ...
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|May 19th, 2008, 02:49 PM||#31|
Join Date: Mar 2007
My opinion, unless you are going to be anywhere near Yellowstone, and know in fact that your area has some of the tiny population of grizzlies in Idaho, Youll be dealing with black bears, and even the grizzlies arent near as big as the salmon gorging ones up in AK. black bears are wussies.
Get a 10mm; preferably a hicap para or STI so you can have 18 rounds at your disposal.
|May 19th, 2008, 06:38 PM||#32|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Took a 320 lb. black bear from the loft in the stable last december with my S&W M&P40 FMJ.
Went photographing Elk, as part of a local study, with a .270WSM (for smaller game) and a 12ga sabot gun. About 12 miles from camp in light cover we came up on Mama grizzly and one cub. It's only the new snow and cool wind in our faces that kept us relatively safe. I took 17 pictures, would have taken more but from 85 yards the last one caught her attention for a couple seconds.
Won't go up that way again without the bone crushing .375 H&H Maggie, the ultimate high country defensive weapon.
|May 20th, 2008, 09:00 PM||#33|
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|July 23rd, 2013, 07:07 PM||#34|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Powell, Wyoming
One Big Ass Mistake, America!
|July 23rd, 2013, 07:30 PM||#35|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Western Kentucky
A few pieces of advice from this seasoned and long time hunter. You can take it or leave it. No need to get into a caliber war with 'What's biggest and best?"
1) You don't need a 500 S&W Mag or 460 to kill a bear! That's the short and sweet of it!
2) 40 S&W isn't enough to humanely kill a bear!
3) Bigger isn't always better when it comes to bear ... especially brown bear. Larger calibers are more of a confidence booster to the shooter than they are a practical caliber for the job! Think about that!
The thing to remember is consistent follow up, if one is needed, and ease and confidence in use of the firearm. I don't know of anyone who owns a 500 S&W Mag and is 'confident' in firing it. It's more or less an 'ego booster' in my opinion.
I have taken bear with 10mm, 44 Magnum, and 41 Magnum pistol / revolver cartridges. I feel confident in shooting any of the above, and can place consistent follow-up shots without worrying about breaking my wrist! All of these cartridges have been shown to consistently break through a Brown Bear skull plate easily!
Take my advice or don't, but this Kentucky Boy has hunted every kind of game in North America, and I have yet to see a shooter who shoots the above listed cartridges who feels like he isn't carrying 'enough' into the field with him. A 500 S&W will more than likely be shot a dozen times, put on the shelf, and never be shot again.
My advice from experience ... there isn't anything living in North America that can't easily be taken with a 10mm or 44 Magnum! End of story.
Last edited by RoosterShooter; July 23rd, 2013 at 07:37 PM.
|October 1st, 2013, 03:55 AM||#36|
Join Date: Apr 2012
I know this is a handgun forum, but bear country? I'm taking my 45-70 lever action rifle. Might take a 22 pistol for critters, small critters. Before y'all jump on me, I do own a Model 29 and like it fine. That said, if there's a possible encounter with a hostile brown or grizzly, I want something that takes two hands to carry/operate.
|October 4th, 2013, 12:50 AM||#39|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
|October 4th, 2013, 03:17 AM||#41|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St Petersburg, FL
NOT a pistol.
870 12 Gauge, 18.5" barrel, converted to Magpul MOE AR stock, MOE 870 For-end, and a good padded sling. Load up with 00-Buck.
If you're going to carry a 6-8lb handgun, you may as well sling a 10lb shotgun over your shoulder.
Oh yeah... and all under $500.
Last edited by JeffWard; October 4th, 2013 at 03:21 AM.
|October 23rd, 2013, 09:31 AM||#42|
Join Date: Oct 2013
The recoil and muzzle blast on an 8 3/8" S&W .460 X frame is brutal.
I would believe the blast on the shorter barrel versions will be worse.
For actually mastering ??? one of these beasts, I would recommend much practice with .45 LC with only enough .460 shot to confirm a medium size barn door can actually be hit, sometimes.
For a last ditch bear gun, shot at contact range, it might be fine.
At the least, you'll be too deaf to hear yourself screaming while the bear lunches on you.
I actually like my .460 but shoot it very infrequently.
The blast makes it unwelcome at the range and the recoil bruises my hand pretty badly.
The pump shotgun with slugs sounds like it might be a better bear country choice.
|October 23rd, 2013, 12:06 PM||#43|
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Port Orange, FL
Whatever you use, better kill it, because a bear that has been wounded is a very unfriendly sort. At least the ones in Wyoming are.
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