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This is a discussion on I Need a Bear Gun... within the Wheelguns forums, part of the Armory category; Originally Posted by MP40Dale I have read articles about a handgun against a bear. The results were not good. The shooter was so flustered he ...


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Old January 30th, 2014, 10:30 AM   #46
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I have read articles about a handgun against a bear. The results were not good. The shooter was so flustered he missed with 6 rounds of 44Mag at relatively short range, if I remember correctly the guy got mauled. The article was in an archery magazine and they suggested using bear pepper sprat instead of a handgun. That's my .02
This. I'd take a glock 10mm as well but the pepper spray is very effective and has a good range. I wish there was a M&P 10mm for heavy knockdown woods carry.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 11:56 AM   #47
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I would take the advice of someone who lives in Alsaka. I shoot a lot of big bore handguns 357 max. up but to be quite frank my thoughts on a big bear gun is a 12ga. pump gun with folding stock or my 9.3x62. This is my mileage and other do vary.



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Indeed, why not just get a cheap pump shotgun with synthetic stock and a nice carrying strap. Synthetic stocks are lighter and if it accidentally gets wet who cares? Get a nice beater short barrel Mossberg for $300 and don't worry about
it, or cheaper Turkish gun.

I wouldn't rely on a pistol for bear duty. Its risky and that pistol will probably feel much more uncomfortable then toting a simple shotgun.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 01:29 PM   #48
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I've seen a full bore .44 mag bounce off the skull of a black bear.
Hand guns and bears are a bad mix.
Sounds like you just need to find a slower running friend for your dad to go fishing with

I wouldn't want to try fly fishing with any of these hand canons strapped to me, let alone a rifle slung over my shoulder.

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Old January 30th, 2014, 02:22 PM   #49
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+1 on the 10mm.
10mm for bear is like using .380ACP or bird shot for two legged critters, i.e. just enough to piss them off.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 02:22 PM   #50
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May I suggest a Savage Hog Hunter in .338. Has iron sights and a resonably short barrel. Not real heavy and if you draw a tag for a bear more than enough to take one. The Savage isn't a real expensive gun either. I have fished in bear country and a few times the sound of the guide flipping the safety off was enough for me to think a handgun wasn't going to do it. None of the guides I met ever carried anything small caliber wise. But that was in grizzly country. The thought of getting between a black bear sow and its cubs would make me want as big a gun as I can carry. Momma bears get REAL mad.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 05:03 PM   #51
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10mm for bear is like using .380ACP or bird shot for two legged critters, i.e. just enough to piss them off.
Are we talking huge brown bears? We have black bears here and they are not large. If your really concerned with bears your better off with pepper spray and a shotgun.
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Are we talking huge brown bears? We have black bears here and they are not large. If your really concerned with bears your better off with pepper spray and a shotgun.
If we're going to talk about black bear specifically, there are a lot around Washington as well, but they scare off easily with noise or when given some pain (less lethal).
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If we're going to talk about black bear specifically, there are a lot around Washington as well, but they scare off easily with noise or when given some pain (less lethal).
Yup same in Oregon. I'd still avoid a sow and her cubs obviously. Only time I've ever had an issue with a bear here in Oregon I was younger and stupid and had put cow urine on my boots while bow hunting. We kept finding elk carcasses that week while hunting. I was out in the middle of a clear cut tracking some elk when I noticed a massive bore was walking down the same trail with his nose to the ground following me. I got up on a big stump and made a racket trying to scare him off. He just looked me over and Mozied along.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 01:48 PM   #54
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A pump 12 Gauge loaded with a deep penetrating slug. Easier to use, plenty of power, and inexpensive.
+1. Actually the thing with the best track record is the "Bear Spray" pepper canister.
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Don't fool yourself, buy a rifle. Do the bear a favor if you feel so compeled..
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Old February 1st, 2014, 12:52 PM   #56
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72) 40 S&W isn't enough to humanely kill a bear!
not exactly true. first off, if it's a really big grizzly, the 40c will pose a choking hazard...after he mauls you, if he eats the pistol, it'll lodge in his throat.

or, if you are really quick, you can run up behind it, jump on it's back, and drop 5 in it's right ear.

ohhhh.... you said humanely....

my fault. you are correct.

a 44 mag with 300 grains would be my first choice, although the 480 ruger seems to have rather impressive data for what it is, and, allegedly isn't that horrific in the recoil department.
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The Ruger and Taurus's are going to cost less than the Smith's, and in Revolvers the reliability is there. I have always been a fan of the Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan in .454, but that could just be a cool look factor

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